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cross-posted from: https://leminal.space/post/6433881
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Same with groups related to the Gaza genocide.
This channel can’t be displayed because it violated local laws.
Ror this one I think they advertised somewhere that the groups would still be available if you download the apk from their website, I did this and I can still see the hamas group
Hama’s has a public telegram channel? That seems like a legal liability
iirc they need to comply with google store policies, but when downloading the apk directly that is not relevant.
You know what, in my head I think I want a whole new messenger.
There’s an indexer that acts as a phone book, but at the same time, people can bypass that by directly adding contacts.
All chat history and groups are peer 2 peer and are stored like torrents with the extended backup being self-hostable.
Recent chat history (up to 30 days) can be stored on the indexer, though they’re encrypted and so the server is blind to what’s in them. They should explicitly be opt-in.
Whenever a user adds a new client (device), all conversations recipients should have to approve in order for them to see the chat history.
It should also have all the bells and whistles, like emoji, stickers, groups, channels, etc.
What’s wrong with WhatsApp? Is there something I need to know?
It’s owned by Meta/Facebook a company that’s makes its money spying on users. Signal or Simplex Chat are much better choices.
Everything. Why would you trust Meta with anything?
Very true.
https://blog.paulbiggar.com/meta-and-lavender might be worth reading.
It gets worse when you watch his interview with Tucker Carlson … guy said if a government forces us to censor a group it’ll only censored from the app you get from big tech play stores… That’s horseshit… If you censor a group from your platform, it’ll be removed from all people’s feeds regardless of their clients or from where they got the app…
telegram has different visibility based on which client you are using and your phone number’s region. I’ve seen it firsthand how some channels are not available on telegram downloaded from app store vs direct apk download. unless if you mean in spirit they’re basically the same which i agree but everyone that has used telegram at all knows that telegram values being accessible more than free speech and privacy.
I’ve seen it firsthand how some channels are not available on telegram downloaded from app store vs direct apk download
the right word is “visible”… discoverability on Telegram has always being broken, as in you search for a channel, good luck finding it!.. like you said it’s because of your phone number region… Etc… that has been fixed when they introduced similar channels feature, since then I never used that broken search functionality… But once you find and join a channel, if Telegram mods decided to censor some posts or remove the entire channel, it’ll be removed from all clients… unless there is some client out there who saves snapshots of all channels or posts ( somehow )
by available i meant available. it’s on a per channel/group basis and not on individual messages but essentially you can’t join or view their messages even if you have their id and even if someone forwards it to you it displays a “this message is nor available on clients downloaded from google play” error message or something similar. if you joined a channel prior and it get blocked from your client you stay in but can’t view its messages.
That sucks, i don’t know if a XMPP client + Tor/Orbot would be a good alternative
I think something like Simplex Chat is easier to use.
I thought Telegram was the next big thing as it was secure.
Secure has no meaning.
According to Telegram.
This is only possible because Telegram is service as a software substitute.
