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You’re not alone. This isn’t normal and you’re not crazy for not wanting to be spied on just for making the mistake of going outside and walking past someone’s house.
Reporter: Eevoltic
Reason: trolling. they keep replying to every comment saying the first ammendment or some other US thing is more important than privacy lol
Imagine reporting someone for actually contributing to the conversation. Imaging thinking that other countries don’t already have similar laws in place. Don’t you wonder how security cameras are a thing for businesses across literally the entire world?
Just because I outline what specific laws the US follow to allow it doesn’t mean other countries don’t allow it either. This is not a US centric problem. I would challenge you to find a country that DOESN’T Allow you to record your own property. Or I suppose you can just cry to more mod-mail.
Oh man. You’re worried about your neighbors cameras? Wait until you learn about all the stuff they put on traffic lights these days. If you’re on just about any public road, or adjacent properties/sidewalks, you’re ALREADY being recorded by the government. I wouldn’t worry all that much about a random doorbell camera. That’s just one data point. The traffic stuff can track you for miles. Hell… have an accident, your lawyer to subpoena the state for their footage. https://zaneslaw.com/blog/how-to-access-traffic-camera-footage-phoenix/
You don’t have privacy out in public. It doesn’t exist. What you’re all advocating for is that property owners don’t have a right to install security systems on their own property. Or to record events on their property/in public. That’s just plain incorrect.
So you also believe that you can determine tone from text. What I see written is a call to action. While context could appear to make it light-hearted, it’s still a call to action. Very much akin to the “in minecraft” “meme” which didn’t pass muster and got someone arrested. Seems odd that a “privacy” caring moderator would tolerate even a “joke” based on taking away someone’s privacy. Jumping to the point of “let’s dox this guy” from where we were in the conversation was not a normal step. Nothing about a camera on private property equates to doxing someone. Just because I see a mail carrier on my cameras doesn’t mean I actually know anything about them. Jumping straight to doxing someone “as a joke” isn’t even reasonable in context if you FORCE a light-hearted nature to the comment.
Nowhere in my “defeatism” did I write a call to action (and if there was one it would be to write your representatives if you’re in the US to change the law) so I’m not sure why you’re equating them. Neither did I actually claim actual defeatism. I’m all for privacy. I’m a huge advocate for it. Someone’s right to their property is a completely different issue which is actually codified. Claiming that your right to privacy supersedes an actual right to property is a bit silly. That’s not “defeatism”.
I mean, do it? No reason to announce it here, and no one will care about your plethora of cameras. Why would what someone chooses to add to their property be something that “pisses you off” so much?
It pisses me off that so many people put cameras on there door bells
Does it piss you off when they have sex out of wedlock in their house too? How dare they have a shed in their backyard that doesn’t match the HOA approved colors!
It kind of makes me want to go bonkers and have 12-14 visible CTV cameras pointing at the person to dares to come to my door
It’s your property… do whatever you want. Hell adding all those cameras like that with no purpose will alert your neighbors to what you are… clearly looney tunes levels of crazy.
Is it to much be asked not to have my face analyzed when I knock on your door? I just want to talk to a person, not be photographed like an animal in a zoo
You have no right to privacy on my property (Exceptions being obvious things like bathrooms). If you want to “just” talk to me… then you hopefully already know me (otherwise that becomes soliciting/trespassing) and you would simply just text/call me.
So yes… It is too much to ask. As your complaint about cameras on my property and your supposed resolution of not having cameras on my property is depriving me of my right to do whatever the fuck I want on my own property within the bounds of the law. I also have a right and in many cases a duty to know who’s on my property and for what purpose they’re there.
Look… I’ll meet you in the middle here. I have 6 cameras that cover 360 degrees of my house (focused on my property, not my neighbors). All the processing to identify cars, cats, and people runs on servers in my garage and the video footage is stored on my 400TB storage node. So I’m not sending your image to the “cloud” to be raped by some faceless big corpo. But what I do on my property is none of your damn business and if you don’t like it… Don’t come on my property. Just like I don’t come onto your property and make demands of you.
Hell I have signs posted on my door “No Soliciting” and “No Trespassing”. Guess how many people knock on my door that claim they’re not soliciting literally in the next line to talk about whatever company they represent. Literally violating the law and my rights without a care in the world. But I’m supposed to care when someone has an issue with a camera I own on my property recording my own stuff. Pretty absurd.
It pisses me off that so many people put cameras on there door bells
It kind of makes me want to go bonkers and have 12-14 visible CTV cameras pointing at the person to dares to come to my door (joking)
You’re not alone. This isn’t normal and you’re not crazy for not wanting to be spied on just for making the mistake of going outside and walking past someone’s house.
Imagine reporting someone for actually contributing to the conversation. Imaging thinking that other countries don’t already have similar laws in place. Don’t you wonder how security cameras are a thing for businesses across literally the entire world?
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0JP1OZ/
Just because I outline what specific laws the US follow to allow it doesn’t mean other countries don’t allow it either. This is not a US centric problem. I would challenge you to find a country that DOESN’T Allow you to record your own property. Or I suppose you can just cry to more mod-mail.
Oh man. You’re worried about your neighbors cameras? Wait until you learn about all the stuff they put on traffic lights these days. If you’re on just about any public road, or adjacent properties/sidewalks, you’re ALREADY being recorded by the government. I wouldn’t worry all that much about a random doorbell camera. That’s just one data point. The traffic stuff can track you for miles. Hell… have an accident, your lawyer to subpoena the state for their footage. https://zaneslaw.com/blog/how-to-access-traffic-camera-footage-phoenix/
For example… https://az511.gov/
Businesses have cameras…
You don’t have privacy out in public. It doesn’t exist. What you’re all advocating for is that property owners don’t have a right to install security systems on their own property. Or to record events on their property/in public. That’s just plain incorrect.
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I mean… find me a country that doesn’t allow you to install cameras on your own private property and I’ll admit defeat. How about that?
Edit: and since you’re already here moderator… How about you remove the call to action for doxing someone?
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https://lemmy.ml/comment/10636070
Which is a call to action. A little bit down the comment thread.
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So you also believe that you can determine tone from text. What I see written is a call to action. While context could appear to make it light-hearted, it’s still a call to action. Very much akin to the “in minecraft” “meme” which didn’t pass muster and got someone arrested. Seems odd that a “privacy” caring moderator would tolerate even a “joke” based on taking away someone’s privacy. Jumping to the point of “let’s dox this guy” from where we were in the conversation was not a normal step. Nothing about a camera on private property equates to doxing someone. Just because I see a mail carrier on my cameras doesn’t mean I actually know anything about them. Jumping straight to doxing someone “as a joke” isn’t even reasonable in context if you FORCE a light-hearted nature to the comment.
Nowhere in my “defeatism” did I write a call to action (and if there was one it would be to write your representatives if you’re in the US to change the law) so I’m not sure why you’re equating them. Neither did I actually claim actual defeatism. I’m all for privacy. I’m a huge advocate for it. Someone’s right to their property is a completely different issue which is actually codified. Claiming that your right to privacy supersedes an actual right to property is a bit silly. That’s not “defeatism”.
I mean, do it? No reason to announce it here, and no one will care about your plethora of cameras. Why would what someone chooses to add to their property be something that “pisses you off” so much?
Because I do not wish to be recorded
Then don’t go on their property?
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Does it piss you off when they have sex out of wedlock in their house too? How dare they have a shed in their backyard that doesn’t match the HOA approved colors!
It’s your property… do whatever you want. Hell adding all those cameras like that with no purpose will alert your neighbors to what you are… clearly looney tunes levels of crazy.
Is it to much be asked not to have my face analyzed when I knock on your door? I just want to talk to a person, not be photographed like an animal in a zoo
You have no right to privacy on my property (Exceptions being obvious things like bathrooms). If you want to “just” talk to me… then you hopefully already know me (otherwise that becomes soliciting/trespassing) and you would simply just text/call me.
So yes… It is too much to ask. As your complaint about cameras on my property and your supposed resolution of not having cameras on my property is depriving me of my right to do whatever the fuck I want on my own property within the bounds of the law. I also have a right and in many cases a duty to know who’s on my property and for what purpose they’re there.
Look… I’ll meet you in the middle here. I have 6 cameras that cover 360 degrees of my house (focused on my property, not my neighbors). All the processing to identify cars, cats, and people runs on servers in my garage and the video footage is stored on my 400TB storage node. So I’m not sending your image to the “cloud” to be raped by some faceless big corpo. But what I do on my property is none of your damn business and if you don’t like it… Don’t come on my property. Just like I don’t come onto your property and make demands of you.
Why are you knocking on my door? I don’t want people knocking on my door.
Hell I have signs posted on my door “No Soliciting” and “No Trespassing”. Guess how many people knock on my door that claim they’re not soliciting literally in the next line to talk about whatever company they represent. Literally violating the law and my rights without a care in the world. But I’m supposed to care when someone has an issue with a camera I own on my property recording my own stuff. Pretty absurd.