An ad hominem isn’t just an attack on the other person’s character, that’s just an insult. An ad hominem is when you tie the quality of an argument to the character of the person making it.
“You are an asshat, therefore your argument is wrong” is an ad hominem.
“You are an asshat” is an attack of the writers characteristics/authority/insult/name-calling/funny/cool/good.
People keep crying “AD HOMINEM” when they get insulted and it’s just the most obvious tell that they’re fucking stupid and don’t know what they’re talking about.
I don’t understand why it is structured as a pyramid
Its the recommended daily internet arguments per USDA guidelines.
- At the bottom are your ad hominems, these lay a good foundation and give you the required dopamine for the day.
- Then come your basic civility criticisms and tone policing to make sure everyone treats you with the respect you deserve.
- Contradictions are of course necessary to make sure your position is represented and to make it harder for opposing views to get traction.
- A few counterarguments here and there make sure that you get a bit of research done in order to be able to form new arguments. This is a good idea as arguments age over time and need to be replaced every so often.
- A refutation is of course a long-term source of dopamine that you can refer back to in the upcoming days for a quick hit by marvelling at your own argument.
- If you have taken care of all your daily internet argument requirements and still have time left, why then you get to do some name-calling. As a treat.
Closer to the top, the better.
Which layer of the chart is me acting like I’ve never heard of whatever is vexing the other person? Also what about purposefully mispronouncing names?
Finkelstein transcended this pyramid when facing Mr Boticelli
I have no regard for etiquette and will freely just shit talk the other guy under any and all circumstances. If anyone has a problem with this, they are free to try and stop me
About where I’m at; etiquette is reserved for the comrades and everyone else can gargle on my balls
Counterpoint: you are a poopy head
Is there a name for coming up with extremely unlikely scenarios where you’d be right? Like, very convoluted, technically possible, but extremely improbable
Pedantry
Gonna tie semantics to that as something related
Are you looking for a debatebro term? That’s a violation of “The principle of charity”.
“Thought experiments” can end up that way when there’s no actual experiment done as a result to test it out, or after it gets released into the wild. The enduring use of P-Zombies or simulation theories.
vaushism
Sam Harris-ing
Essentially a form of begging the question; If we assume this scenario where I’d be correct, then I’d be correct.
I wish my brain didn’t shut down if I get sternly talked
states the opposite case with little or no supporting evidence
no it isn’t
Step 1) Say something objectively true.
Step 1b) "Well, ACTUALLY..."
Step 2) Tell that stupid motherfucker off.
That one annoying-ass reddit powermod that runs contrapoints sub who got incredibly angry at us that one time
name calling
the Sartre quote always comes to mind
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Yeah, fascists love calling me out for namecalling everytime I call them fascists for supporting genocide.
I don’t see Sophistry on this list. Curious…
Pea brained: Using ad hominem because you have no real argument.
Normal brained: Insulting your opponent once you realize ad hominem aren’t insults.
Galaxy brained: Using ad hominem because informal fallacies aren’t actually logical fallacies.
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new Maslow’s hierarchy of needs just dropped
(essentially, I will not self-actualize until someone calls me an asshat)