• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    I have some big issues with the final Dr Strangelove scene.

    For one, big companies don’t like competition at all, Amazon should know all about that.

    For another, once the bombs fall, the sales stop. You can’t tell me vault life would be preferable to their current ultra-billionaire lifestyle.

    For a third, none of the people in that room would be even remotely hurt if their companies folded. That only applies to small business owners, not billionaires.

    So they have zero incentive to drop the bombs. That’s just ridiculous.

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      3 months ago

      Unless wealth is just their means to feel in control. All the wealth in the world apparently can’t stop war from happening and someone else being able to nuke them means they have to face the reality that they are not in control of all things. Vault tec gives them the psychological out of not facing their own lack of control by telling them they get to drop the bomb and control the vaults. If they drop the bomb, they take control back from chaos.

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        They also did social experiments in each of the vaults. It’s kinda more like the books/TV show Wool/Silo.

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    I don’t think we’re considering all the possibilities for this revelation. Like China may have dropped the first bombs on the US after vault Tek dropped a bomb on China

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    3 months ago

    Drives me insane when people analyze videogames and movies like that are real…

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      3 months ago

      Well, surprisingly, Fallout is hyper realistic. All the tech described is based on known to us science, etc. In this instance it’s very interesting to analyse the lore.

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        It really isn’t hyper realistic at all. It’s an alternate reality universe where they had tiny fusion energy cores, exoskeleton power armors, and goofy AI robots in the 1950s. And past the apocalypse you have even more nonsense that really doesn’t make sense. In the show we even have magical cold fusion tech, which is apparently different to the fusion cores, which are already so powerful, long lasting and small enough that I don’t see too much of a net gain if you don’t know how to make more of it anyway since both are proprietary designs and the knowledge behind them lost in both cases.

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          I agree with you, but the prewar era of the game is not the 1950s.

          The bombs dropped in 2077. The main divergence of the fallout timeline is that they didn’t discover the transistor until the 2060s or so. Which is why everything has that bulky style to it. The 50s style is also attributed to a kind of cultural renaissance to that era. Kind of like how sometimes hairstyles come back after decades of being out of style, only for an entire time period.

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            The diversion isn’t just the transistor. From my understanding its that the cold war doesn’t happen after ww2. You get instead 50 years of the collaboration as an entire species.

            Things only start falling apart when the oil runs out.

            Also Bethesda added Aliens manipulating Earth, with overtones that it was them who started “the great war.” Also they had been manipulating humanity for at least several hundred years.

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          Quick interjection, fusion cells and cores aren’t actually fusion reactions, they’re fission. The labeling is a prewar advertising gimmick.

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          Fallout is not set in 1950-s. Its setting doesn’t start before 2050-s. We already have goofy robots, exoskeletons and fission nano reactors. Fusion cores are a marketing gimmick, they are not fusion and don’t last long. You don’t understand the Fallout universe at all.

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                We’re like ~50 years behind, but have transistors. In the 2070 we’re supposed to have Iter, a massive big regular fusion prototype that is still far away from any sort of commercially viable product. If you really think some 1950s based society developing all this shit is “hyper realistic” when we can’t achieve something even resembling it despite our technological advancement, then you’re simply delusional.

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        3 months ago

        Fallout is hyper realistic

        Ah, yes, stim-pacs have saved my life numerous times, and I also experience time dilation at my own whim! And, obviously, a quick hit of Jet has gotten me going at least a few times over the years.

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          All its tech and science is based on our existing tech and science, it’s just fast forwarded a few decades into the future.

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                Given that it takes a giant room of vacuum tubes to equal the computation power of a cabinet sized 1960’s transistorized computer and neither had anything close to the AI of a small robot shown in Fallout, it isn’t hyper realistic.