Would like to hear your perspective on this
Some people purchase a phone based on looks, some for customization, others for specific apps, some it comes just down to what they can afford
I can come up with strong reasons to use Window or MacOS as your primary desktop os. IOS or Android as your phone OS. Windows / Linux / BSD for a server or appliance OS.
If someone thinks one size fits all THEY are the ones that should not be trusted in terms of tech insights.
Agreed.
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I can’t think of on3 scenario that windows is the best option for a server. I mean unless its its a virtual desktop for a thin client but still usually would run that in a Linux vm
can’t think of on3 scenario that windows is the best option for a server.
There are plenty of enterprise scenarios: eg an AD server for Windows clients, a DFS server, or servers to run certain Windows-only applications such as SCCM etc.
So windows is the right option only when it’s the only one
BSD has a very narrow set of benefits over Linux based systems I could say the same for BSD which mostly amounts to network appliances / firewalls these days. I would say NAS but Even trueNAS is moving toward linux.
Oh, we are back at being jerks to each other because of phone. Lovely.
I work around a lot of technical people. From software to devops, sys admins to hardware engineers, entry level to exec suite; and I have contacts around the world from my job. It’s a mixed bag as to which phone they all use, and it’s never had any effect on how I view their technical abilities. My personal phone is an iPhone, and my work one is a pixel 7 pro. It’s been that way for over a decade. There are things I like and dislike about both platforms. At the end of the day the “technical” things I do have little, if anything, to do with my phone.
Any personal judgement a stranger makes based on phone, OS, sportsball team, etc really only highlights their own childishness, need for something to lord over others, and propensity towards tribalism. I have no time for that BS.
Yep. I use either and both. They are both phones that work well and have annoying issues.
I think tech guys are split on apple because of the different priorities. Apple has a very clean, optimized and seamless OS and ecosystem.
Apple is also objectively extremely anti-consumer as well. No side loading, proprietary software and hardware, ludicrously overpriced hardware, locked down OS, and highly monopolistic. All of these only get stronger the more who use Apple, and so many tech people are turned off by it.
Personally, I am more of the latter. I don’t care if my phone is a Nokia 3310 in comparison. I’d rather die standing than live kneeling.
No sideloading? Sure iOS and iPadOS are pretty locked down, but homebrew? Most of the apps on my Mac didn’t come from the App Store.
As for the price, sure they’re expensive, but they last! I have a 2006 mini still kicking around, a 2013 iMac still chugging along… neither still receive updates, but that doesn’t stop me from running some flavor of Linux on them for one reason or another. On that front, Apple has pissed me off a bit, though. The first Mac I used was a G4 that got software updates for right around 10-years. The mini I have got about the same. The iMac got 8 years, IIRC. That made me mad.
For context I use all of these daily: Linux (servers + handheld gaming), Windows (gaming), Mac OS (work & general purpose). I used one of the first iPhones around 2008, then exclusively Android for 10 years, and then back to iPhones.
Iphone users of Lemmy, people say not to trust you on tech insights.
IMO, these “people” with such takes are the only ones who shouldn’t be trusted on tech insights here :P
Who cares what phone you have. It’s just a phone.
I feel like if you paid extra for an iPhone, that says something bad.
That’s why I only pay the normal price.
nothing apple ever has a normal price
Fuck em. I don’t want to talk to them anyway. If having a phone preference different than them is a problem
The phone you use doesn’t say anything about your tech insights. Why should it?
However, it may tell you something about the kinds of things the person values. If price matters, you’ll go with the cheapest Android. If features matter, you’ll go with a flagship Android. If privacy matters, you’ll get a specific Android phone and install GrapheneOS on it.
There are also a variety of reasons for getting an iPhone, and they may reflect your values in some way.
There are also a variety of reasons for getting an iPhone, and they may reflect your values in some way.
Yummy. Tell me more
I bought a refurbished €100 iPhone SE the year before last, and it’s survived being dropped literally scores of times, awful charging practices, and nobody else wants it. Before that, it was a €125 6+ that I got rid of because it was too big and made my hand hurt. Before that it was an iPhone 4 that was given to me in 2012, which only died when I ran it over with a car.
My reasons are: free/cheap, easy profile transfer, high functionality regardless of how I treat it.
100%, I’m not tech savvy, especially for lemmy standards (I don’t get asked to do tech things for family, but I can generally troubleshoot problems I encounter). I am cheap regarding time and money though, and it’s simply economics. If you’ve got a consistent android alternative where I can spend €375 (assuming the first wasn’t free, but a similar price to the others) for three phones (or fewer) that function well for my purposes (browser, data heavy apps, and a lot of dumb screenshots) over 12 years, I’m down.
I’m still running an original 2016 SE and even 8 years after release it’s still going strong and getting updates, the only reason I’m looking to upgrade is because it’s a struggle to keep it charged all day even with a battery bank case. Idk why all new phones are so massive now but I hate that I can’t find anything anywhere near the same size as the SE.
Mine’s also an original SE, I just got it refurbished 😅 The battery it came with is still going strong, though I also have an external battery pack because I got really into Pokémon go, so I’m not relying on its battery much.
I have had to change iPhone batteries before and replacement batteries weren’t super expensive (€40-70, with a proprietary set of tools that is something like €20). Now that I have a cat it would be a challenge, but it’s not too complicated if you watch a walk-through first and keep track of your screws.
Some people like the looks. Some people buy one because it serves as a status symbol. Some people just go with the flow and buy one, simply because everyone else already has one. Some people appreciate the coherent UI. Some people already use various other Apple products and services, so they prefer to get the synergy of also using an iPhone.
I don’t really care much about any of those things, but I have some special software and hardware that only works with vanilla or OEM Android and iOS. Trust me, I tried lots of different tweaks and hacks, but eventually had to face the harsh reality that nowadays things are specifically designed to prevent people like me from doing whatever I want. If things had worked with Lineage or Graphene, I would obviously be using those instead. Since that isn’t the case, I had to pick the least offensive one from a list of two awful options. This decisions shows that I value the compatibility that comes with an iPhone.
I’m sure there are lots of other reasons too.
Back in the day, iPhones ran more and better games. I just never switched to Android. To be fair, I’m also currently rocking a four year old iPhone and will continue to do so until it dies. We’ll see what happens from there… I’ll probably just try and get it fixed.
It matches my Stanley
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Who says that? Seems kind of silly to put some one in a box based on their phone OS preference
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Anyone can have an insightful or idiotic opinion. The OS they use to express it doesn’t matter.
Propertiary software esp iMessage and other apps I rely on atm, has kinda prevented me from moving to fully android. I have started to use Linux on my laptop permanently though.
But are you using Arch tho?
Nah even better! Linux from Scratch bruh >:3
I have an iPhone an a few Linux computers. Where do I stand?
My wife is an iPhone user but that’s because it was a hand me down. I will say, on her behalf, it doesn’t make her less tech savvy-- she’s that way all by herself.
Considering I go around telling people to install NixOS, that sounds about right.
Seriously though, Apple stuff is usually 90%* of the way there with how I want my devices to work. I don’t miss Android at all honestly, on the desktop it’s a lot closer. So much so that when I use my Linux computer, I miss stuff from macOS and when I use my MacBook, I miss stuff from Linux. (I really really wish there was a GNUstep-based Linux desktop on par with KDE. I should get back to messing around with GNUstep, I wanted to look into getting Wayland support fixed, but too many projects.)
* Let’s hope the EU gives that another couple % for the iPhone.
