There’s a lot propaganda floating around in Chudspace positioning Russia as a bastion of western traditionalism, religious orthodoxy and opposition to gay/trans rights. To the Chud audience the Russia/Ukraine conflict is framed as tradition vs modern decadence and perversion.
It would be somehow less unhinged if it were just the other side of the russiagate coin.
Edit: obviously propaganda of equal quality also floats around asserting the inverse, ie the de-nazification narrative. Sometimes the streams cross and an article praising Putin’s embrace of multicultural immigration (for example) will pop up in the spaces that tend fascist leaning pro-Russia. It’s all quite tiresome and incoherent.
Yeah. I think it’s a mistake to read too much into it looking for underlying coherency or consistency. I think Ur-Fascism and other classic observations on these sorts of social movements identify this disregard for logical consistency or sincere ideology.
Annoyingly, it’s not even a tactical feature of the ideology as far as I can tell, the brainrot itself seems to be an important fundamental piece of the material conditions that fascism repeatedly emerges from. (tho it is tactically useful as fuck for them.)
Yeah, one thing to keep in mind when discussing Americans’ views on foreign policy… like >95% of them are so woefully uninformed on the wider world around them that you can’t learn much from polls on their opinions.
Maybe American ones… and something tell me they only are like that because they eaten the russiagate hoax too, but liked the contents.
There’s a lot propaganda floating around in Chudspace positioning Russia as a bastion of western traditionalism, religious orthodoxy and opposition to gay/trans rights. To the Chud audience the Russia/Ukraine conflict is framed as tradition vs modern decadence and perversion.
It would be somehow less unhinged if it were just the other side of the russiagate coin.
Edit: obviously propaganda of equal quality also floats around asserting the inverse, ie the de-nazification narrative. Sometimes the streams cross and an article praising Putin’s embrace of multicultural immigration (for example) will pop up in the spaces that tend fascist leaning pro-Russia. It’s all quite tiresome and incoherent.
I see that projection is really the prime usian national pasttime.
This is particularly funny since even if we tried to look at it like that, then it’s Ukraine that is much closer to the chud values.
Yeah. I think it’s a mistake to read too much into it looking for underlying coherency or consistency. I think Ur-Fascism and other classic observations on these sorts of social movements identify this disregard for logical consistency or sincere ideology.
Annoyingly, it’s not even a tactical feature of the ideology as far as I can tell, the brainrot itself seems to be an important fundamental piece of the material conditions that fascism repeatedly emerges from. (tho it is tactically useful as fuck for them.)
Most are probably opportunistic to the core when it comes to foreign policy tbh, especially those in power.
Yeah, one thing to keep in mind when discussing Americans’ views on foreign policy… like >95% of them are so woefully uninformed on the wider world around them that you can’t learn much from polls on their opinions.