(In the case that someone in Lemmy still use Google)
Here the funny part, google knew this shit would happen. How you ask? Well, see google has had this problem for a long time.
When google first came out, there was all sorts of techniques you could use to boost your PageRank. Google had to tweak and tweak and tweak to fix it so that nazi sites would not come up when you looked up Jewish holocaust memorial museums for example.
Seems they’ve learned nothing. And yet they’re still one of the biggest tech companies in the world.
Scary. Let’s add AI to the mix now.
At least they haven’t used ChaosGPT for this.
Lord and master, hear my call! I have need of Thee! from the spirits that I called Sir, deliver me!
Goethe - The Sorcerer’s Apprentice
Oh yes they learned. This is now a feature, not a bug. Google’s slogan changed long ago.
What to use for search engine. Even ddg is not giving reliable results.
If you believe Google is the most reliable, you can still use it in a private way via :
- Startpage
Startpage is a private search engine known for serving Google and Bing search results. One of Startpage’s unique features is the Anonymous View, which puts forth efforts to standardize user activity to make it more difficult to be uniquely identified. The feature can be useful for hiding some network and browser properties.
- SearxNG https://searxng.org/
SearXNG is an open-source, self-hostable, metasearch engine, aggregating the results of other search engines while not storing any information itself.
There’s plenty of public instances too https://searx.space/
Get Google search results, but without any ads, JavaScript, AMP links, cookies, or IP address tracking. Easily deployable in one click as a Docker app, and customizable with a single config file.
Couple of public instances too. Basically SearxNG with ONLY google as a source. https://github.com/benbusby/whoogle-search#public-instances
I’m pretty sure Startpage got sold out to an ad company. I think the best option is just to use SearxNG
They do, but it’s still separated from that business. At worse, it’s more an ethical issue of using something that an Ad company own, exactly like using Google with or without proxies services. https://web.archive.org/web/20210118031008/https://blog.privacytools.io/relisting-startpage/
Thank you
Any alternative to Google Alerts?
Long time looking for such service which monitors web for keywords.
I’ve been happy with Kagi. It’s for-pay but it’s quality to me.
Same here, happy Kagi subscriber 👍
I use mainly Andisearch, also has AI but relay on reliable sources (and one of the most privat search out there), Startpage and Whoogle use the old Google search engine, Mojeek also is fine, Groot search has a own search index, Etools a Suiss made Metasearch engine and some more. In the Vivaldi Forum you’ll find the, maybe, most complete list of search engines you can try.
Whoa! You weren’t kidding about that list of search engines. What’s with the Germans and search engines? They sure do have a lot.
The author of th Thread is German, he icluded because of this also searches in German media sites or dictionaries. But if you want a German search engine, you can use MetaGer, not bad at all. Good privacy but freemium, in the free version there are ads, (context, anonymous) and limited on 2 search engines.
Hah! I in fact have been using metager for a couple of months now as my defult search engine, since I saw it recommended in Lemmy those 2 months ago. Works great. Tried kagi before but I just don’t search that much and paying per search makes much more sense to me.
DDG queries can’t really be written the same way you’d write one in Google if you’re after effective results. It’ll take some time to get used to it, tbh I was using DDG alongside Google until I fully switched.
Do you mean grammar-wise, or special operators?
Grammar, I’ve noticed I get much better results if I word things more directly instead of like a question
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They probably mean grammar, since most Google operators do work. If there’s a specific difference in search syntax (other than bangs) though, I’d love to know what I’ve been missing.
Nobody will tell you, but keep the best for the last I guess – Yandex. Russian, results reminiscent of old 2005 open internet, has no regard for US DMCA laws or western Atlantic Council censorship laws. Undisputed and incomparable for web results, reverse image search, videos, anything. Preferably use a VPN though to get more search results variety and for extra privacy. Its privacy is better than Google/Bing, but worse than DDG, but DDG has high censorship.
Do Russia have some fuck up law like USA that the government can access the data of Russian’s companies?
Probably but I have seen Yandex Disk being one of the main choices among pirate uploaders and game level creators, among other kinds of unusual people. You can use Yandex searching without an account, so I doubt it matters. And Yandex does not go around trying to track you outside of few Russian internet websites, from my observations, and its tracking is mostly limited to ad clicks and basic website counter.
You can use Yandex with any VPN and enjoy its fruits with zero consequences.
Thanks for the tip. I’m gonna give it a try
I would not use anything in Russia as Russia isn’t a democracy and does not allow freedom of the press
…while protecting the president of Freedom of The Press, as he stays away from US gov dictatorship assassins?
The world is truly bazaar
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Yandex censors quite a bit](https://rsf.org/en/russian-journalism-chained-kremlin-s-systemic-censorship-0
You posted content from RSF, which is a CIA propaganda outlet.
The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) supports RSF’s reporting of media freedom violations throughout the world and especially in Asia.
Yandex altered results to trash Navalny](
Navalny was trashed by about 70% of Russian citizens in a mayor election. His approval rate was absymal, and he was only propped up by western countries to create infighting in Russia. This has been NATO’s motive ever since it was formed.
So I absolutely wouldn’t trust it for anything related to politics or Russian interests. Maybe it’s okay from a privacy and non-Russian interest perspective though, idk, but by default I don’t trust it because Russia is so repressive against media in its country.
You trust Google a lot, looking at your trust in Graphene and other stuff. Are you a western liberal by any chance? Because there is zero reason to trust western media that loves Zionism and genocide. On the other hand, west keeps lying about Russia and China doing genocides.
Also, if you are posting western propaganda outlets like NYT, The Verge et al, I should also be able to post Russian sources on western propaganda. But you will claim it is “Kremlin” stuff and claim it is invalid, like you are saying about Yandex.
That said, it seems as if it’s just reducing the search ranking for Russian “disinformation,” not removing results.
DDG uses Bing’s index and shows western propaganda results.
You are trying to poke the bear, and seem more suited to Reddit than Lemmy.
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Kagi. It’s better here.
Not sure who’s down voting you, its quite a valid option that, unlike google, is actually innovating in interesting ways.
Google: “Hey, do not be evil.”
Google years later: "Can I has all the profits and personal data?”
Google after that: " I am the Lizard Queen!"
Facebook (Lizard king) 🤝 Google (Lizard Queen) ?
Scammers were already paying Bing and Google to have their sites above real ones.
And now they’re paying to have google and bing have their AI to show scam websites above real ones.
The same assholes riding a new horse and as usual everyone wants to blame the horse.
Way to go killing the golden goose there Google
I…. Don’t really get why they think this is better. Google search was good…. Other companies can copy AI technology anyway. AI is really just predicting words and wasn’t designed for search, but their old algorithm was.
Whyyyyyy
My theory is that Google wants to move towards vector symbolic representations for pages in search rather than page caching. It would make index storage and retrival orders of magnitude cheaper for them if they can design a scheme that works well.
Google hasn’t been dogfooding in a long time have they? I wonder what products Googlers use.
So it’s working as intended?
Also it doesn’t know shit about combos in super double dragon.
In a move that suprise la no one…
Hell’s attorneys are seriously lacking. I’ve been waiting for them to sue Google for DMCA violations 🤣.
I have it on and use it just to see how terrible it is tbh, I get a laugh at how inaccurate it is every time 😂
