• Pandantic@midwest.socialEnglish
    424·
    3 months ago

    More proof it’s more punishment than concern for the baby. To them, sex is a sin unless for procreation and your punishment for having sex for fun or while poor (or sexually assaulted) is that you have to bear the burden because you sinned. They can’t handle their own sexual shit because it’s not allowed to be talked about, so they make us all deal with it. She doesn’t want to have her 3rd baby, but she’s a good Christian woman who can’t say no to her husband, so she has to have it, and she wants other women to have to have it too. The fawning over babies and speaking to the “sacredness of life” is the facade they wear because it sounds more “Christian”.

    Oh that and, male power over women’s bodies. Because, you never know, that mystery pregnancy you got after the club might just be Jesus! Zeus came as coins ffs, so God may appear to the new Mary as rohypnol. Who knows?

  • lath@lemmy.world
    126·
    3 months ago

    A lot of the issues here can be side-stepped with proper sexual education classes.

    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
      163·
      3 months ago

      No amount of education is going to side step getting fucked in the ass like working for minimum wage.

      They also tried to sterelize the lupenproletariat and it didn’t end well.

      Plus, no matter how many destitute families expire, they refill the servitor ranks with brain draining the rest of the planet.

      Because without maintaining an excess supply of working hands, the marginal cost of labour would explode. And the rich want their latté.

      All this to say, the low wages are kept low by design.It’s the very reason for all the assfuckery.

      So no, it won’t be solved by getting the poors to fuck less and have less kids.

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
    6·
    3 months ago

    If they were the men who would get pregnant, there would be free abortion services in any hardware store.

  • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    3 months ago

    “No, god won’t stop abortions from happening, but he makes sure that all wealthy people are good and all poor people are bad and deserve it.”

  • daltotron@lemmy.world
    41·
    3 months ago

    You know, as much as I do like this website, I do find it kind of tiring how the top posts tend to just be like. Like this is an NPC meme, you know? This is a chad vs virgin type of meme. This is about a step away from choosing to portray your opposition as a soy wojack. Sometimes I find that kind of funny because of how absurdly idiotic and brainbroken it reveals the creator of the meme to have been, but I dunno, something about the mainstream adoption of this kind of thing is just kind of incredibly depressing. It’s like I am seeing the mainstream consciousness break apart in real time.

    Can we go back to advice animals and rage comics, guys?

    • TheDonkerZ@lemmy.ca
      2·
      3 months ago

      Memes have become a sort of coping mechanism/method of communication, and it just reflects the the broader state of the world around them.

      Places like Lemmy have becomes bastions for people to share their thoughts and opinions, because the overwhelming consensus is the acknowledgment of being helpless and this is a way to vent and share (what should be) obvious solutions to the problems we’re facing.

      Sure, we go out and vote and talk to friends and family about the things we can do to make change, but we’re not in the class of people to make that change happen.

      So I say fuck it, post away the neo-nilhism memes, I’ll upvote em and laugh away the enormous issues the world has.

    • bleistift2@feddit.deOPEnglish
      31·
      3 months ago

      With a minimum wage job ($7.25/hr) you need to work about 5 to 13 hours per day to make that much – before taxes.

      This is the main point of this post. The meme is just a means to gain attention. I believe people are more likely to consume meme posts than plaintext.

  • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
    59·
    3 months ago

    I’m not advocating insane gop’ers, it’s up to the woman, but they’d say it’s about not killing a kid. They’d go up for adoption which is very successful in the US. They are insane assholes but this is a pretty weak argument IMO.

  • Manmoth@lemmy.ml
    831·
    3 months ago

    I know someone with 11 kids and 3 grandkids. He only just received a raise to ~50k which is more than he’s made in his entire adult life. I know many people in similar situations including my own family. While it may be a struggle, children can be raised when household income is at or below poverty level. Don’t believe anyone who tells you otherwise. Money (or lack there of) will never justify killing a child.

    At a bare minimum there is adoption. Thousands of couples can’t conceive and would love to adopt.

    • medgremlin@midwest.social
      131·
      3 months ago

      Adoption is not the silver bullet people seem to think it is. If the baby isn’t white, or has health problems, there’s a much higher chance they’ll end up in the foster care system.

      Separately, carrying a pregnancy and giving birth are extremely dangerous. Depending on which state you look at, American women face the highest maternal death rate in the developed world. Also, the leading cause of death of pregnant women in America is intimate partner homicide, and intimate partner violence frequently escalates during pregnancy. How does adoption fix those problems?

      • Manmoth@lemmy.ml
        12·
        3 months ago

        Uncertainty and risk are ever present and bringing a child into adverse circumstances is scary. I don’t have any silver bullets to address the multitude of problems you listed. I do know, however, that if we treat every human life as precious, in utero and out, child and adult, that we will live in a better world. If we live in the truthful acknowledgment of the sanctity of life then we will have to forge a better future for the children that are deserving of their chance in life no matter what hardship awaits them. Our judgment is imperfect and shouldn’t dictate whether anyone, particularly an innocent, dies.

        • medgremlin@midwest.social
          2·
          3 months ago

          Then you and the people that agree with you on what constitutes the beginning of human life need to be fighting tooth and nail for social services and social welfare programs to support people before, during, and after pregnancy/birth. “Life begins at conception” and “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” are fundamentally opposing ideals unless they are only backed by cruelty, cognitive dissonance, and hate.

          If you truly believe that all life is sacred, and that life begins with conception, you need to be turning around and fighting the people beside you on the importance of supporting the humans that are outside the womb.

    • PunnyName@lemmy.world
      39·
      3 months ago

      “Should” is not the operative word.

      “Have the choice to” get an abortion is the operative phrase.

      • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
        111·
        3 months ago

        Yes, that’s obvious. People should always have a choice. The choice should just not be based on their income alone.

            • Funkytom467@lemmy.world
              3·
              3 months ago

              Income can’t be irrelevant, you do need to provide for that child. Only if poor people didn’t have a problem to do so would it be irrelevant.

              If a woman abort because she really doesn’t want the financial trouble, it’s not wrong. Furthermore, having the right to choose means she could even have bad reasons without it being wrong.

              Now if you ask me, the meme isn’t really about the choice itself. Poor people often choose to have a kid regardless, most women are wise enough to know it’s worth it. I think the real problem is how harder it is for them to take that choice.

    • Winter8593@lemmy.world
      24·
      3 months ago

      OP didn’t say that at all… They only pointed out how expensive raising a child is and that people will make the decision that is in their best interests.