• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    The uncommitted votes are having an effect! All of the little worms telling me that pressuring Biden was pointless and I should just support him to stop Trump can eat my ass. This is a result of the public pressure his administration is facing. Our voices matter.

    This isn’t good enough. We need an unconditional ceasefire to then negotiate on hostages, but this is another step in the right direction.

    We did that.

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      Please keep going. The US needs to turn on the Netanyahu government. If the west has any principles it needs to show that nobody is exempt from justice. Not even a “strong ally” who’s people have suffered from historical horrors.

      They need to be tried for war crimes.

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        I know you didn’t mean bad by it, but talking about justice like that? I know we don’t live in times of Hannibal and an eye for an eye isn’t productive or progressive at all, but Israel, and not just the current scpagoat Bibi the Genocider, has decades of oppression and genocide they have to pay for.

        To even think about justice, Israel needs to:

        • Go back on all the land it invaded and occupies during the current conflict.

        • Give back all the land its “settlers” has stolen through gunpoint.

        • Give back all the land it has taken through direct military invasion.

        • Pay reparation to the next of kin (to those families it didn’t wipe out completely).

        • Pay for all the public amenities and residential structures it has wiped out over and over, basically rebuilding the country, with the interest accumulated through repeated stifling of the Palestinian country.

        • Demilitarized for some decades like the post WWII Germany was justly subjected to.

        • Cede to a UN mandate for its defense so it will be kept in check while also being protected.

        I don’t know why the Jewish people need an ethno-state as if this is the 19th century, but this would be the starters for a justice without uprooting the whole people from the place they have been living in with the land given to them by British lordship and the UN mandate, both of whom have turned a blind eye to genocide, warcrimes and invasions Israel has inflicted in the Middle-East for decades.

        Going back to main topic, I don’t think Biden will do or say anything about the current landgrab and damage Israel has caused. He’ll just play to the downfall of the current scapegoat of the Zionist endeavour, after he has been a good boy for it, and shut the matter until another scapegoat and and excuse for more genocide and landgrab is prepared for the next decade.

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          All I’m asking for is for the air of invulnerability around so many to be pierced. I know this goes back a long way. I know Netanyahu and co are only the current perpetrators. I know it goes from the person at the top right down to the person “just following orders”. All of it continues while there’s no consequences, and there will never be consequences until nations change their stances towards todays situation.

          We can’t change yesterday. We can only learn from it. Only tomorrow can be made better, and IMHO it needs leaders to understand they are not above the law. Unfortunately the idea behind Magna Carta seems to have expired.

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    UN released an analysis of satellite imagery showing that 35% of buildings in Gaza had been damaged or destroyed during Israel’s offensive, which has claimed almost 32,000 Palestinian lives.

    I am speechless, in what world this is justifiable. Just for perspective, before the war only 30K of the Palestinians were believed to have links to Hamas. That’s less than 1.5% of the population of Gaza.

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      Apartheid Israel has killed more than 1% of Palestinians in Gaza (70% are women and children) in 4 months. This is equivalent to killing 3 million Americans in 4 months. The death toll is now past the Bosnian Genocide. More needs to be done than just a ceasefire; they need to be sanctioned like Russia and other pariah states are.

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    Took the genocidal shitbags long enough. They get no credit for doing it now; especially bc it’s obvious they’re only doing it to salvage Democrat chances at the polls.

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    repeatedly vetoes every UN resolution against Israel

    drafts resolution for Ceasfire on US (and Israel) terms against Gaza

    ???

    “progress” and profit

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    “It said an “immediate and sustained ceasefire” was “imperative” adding that “towards that end” unequivocal support should be given to the hostage negotiations.”

    Read the danged article folks, it’s just saying “a ceasefire would be good, they need to agree to our hostage deal to do that.” They’re not calling for a ceasefire unequivocally, it’s a continuation of the Biden position from a new venue in the hope that it will, aesthetically, look like they’re doing something.

    At least until we see the resolution we should be careful about just granting Joe credit foe this.

    Edit: That is the resolution, it’s literally just the Biden-Israel line of “agree to our deal and we’ll stop for 6 weeks” which they are peddling as if that amounts to a durable ceasefire.

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    Fucking finally. Enough people got Biden scared enough to make a serious move. It’s horrifying that it took this long, with countless lives lost, for it to happen.

    I hope this will meaningfully improve the situation, and not serve as a slap on Israel’s wrist. Permenent peace is a necessity, but I’ll take a ceasefire at all any day of the week.