@philippilk: 1/ Now that the Nordstream pipelines are gone it's worth thinking about how a deindustrialisation of Europe via permantly high energy prices. 🧵 2/ European manufacturing will no longer be economically v...…
Building out renewable energy requires energy. This is something that EU should’ve been doing a long time ago. Also, nuclear is clearly needed as the backbone, but Germany is forging on with shutting down its reactors. EU has absolute clowns running the show.
Even outsourcing production doesn’t completely remove the need for building and installing new energy infrastructure. As others have pointed out, renewables failed to actually make any positive impact to date. France is the only country in EU that has any real alternative energy to fossils because they invested in nuclear.
I didn’t say you wouldn’t need new energy infrastructure. Obviously you do, but not for building the same.
Except that you do, solar panels and windmills have to be transported and installed. This requires energy in terms of moving the equipment and workers, deploying it, hooking it up to the grid and so on. Real life isn’t like Star Craft.
Saying renewables haven’t made any positive impact is just blatantly ignorant.
What’s blatantly ignorant is claiming that current renewables policies had any significant impact on emissions in Europe.
Germany theoretically has somewhere between 30-50% of its electricity needs covered by renewables, but grid scale storage isn’t feasible and baseload sources are all being shut down for various political and environmental reasons (nuclear, coal, gas). Germany has been building out renewable energy faster than any other capitalist country that doesn’t have access to easy hydroelectric capacity, and it’s not even close to enough. It also ignores the primary energy and raw materials needs of industry (steel and fertilizer for example). Energiewende has been a failure, both in terms of ROI and GHG emission reductions.
Angway, it’s too late now. Europe’s economy is fucked and it’s not about to recover without a couple revolutions.
I’d favor building out renewable energy asap.
Building out renewable energy requires energy. This is something that EU should’ve been doing a long time ago. Also, nuclear is clearly needed as the backbone, but Germany is forging on with shutting down its reactors. EU has absolute clowns running the show.
it requires energy, but not really locally, since we outsourced production;
nuclear is a castle in the air for the next two decades, requires energy as well and is more expensive
Even outsourcing production doesn’t completely remove the need for building and installing new energy infrastructure. As others have pointed out, renewables failed to actually make any positive impact to date. France is the only country in EU that has any real alternative energy to fossils because they invested in nuclear.
I didn’t say you wouldn’t need new energy infrastructure. Obviously you do, but not for building the same.
Saying renewables haven’t made any positive impact is just blatantly ignorant.
Same goes for France and nuclear power.
Except that you do, solar panels and windmills have to be transported and installed. This requires energy in terms of moving the equipment and workers, deploying it, hooking it up to the grid and so on. Real life isn’t like Star Craft.
What’s blatantly ignorant is claiming that current renewables policies had any significant impact on emissions in Europe.
Same goes for France and nuclear power.
Okay, enjoy trolling
quite the riposte there
Germany theoretically has somewhere between 30-50% of its electricity needs covered by renewables, but grid scale storage isn’t feasible and baseload sources are all being shut down for various political and environmental reasons (nuclear, coal, gas). Germany has been building out renewable energy faster than any other capitalist country that doesn’t have access to easy hydroelectric capacity, and it’s not even close to enough. It also ignores the primary energy and raw materials needs of industry (steel and fertilizer for example). Energiewende has been a failure, both in terms of ROI and GHG emission reductions.
Angway, it’s too late now. Europe’s economy is fucked and it’s not about to recover without a couple revolutions.
not true