How does it stack up against traditional package management and others like AUR and Nix?

  • ZephrC@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    If you’re going to use flatpak from the command line you’re definitely going to need to start aliasing those flatpak run commands. It’s still annoying, but at least that way it’s only annoying once.

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      8 months ago

      No. I’ll use snaps before I start maintaining a bunch of aliases that I shouldn’t have to. It’s a flaw in flatpak.

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        8 months ago

        Well okay. I agree that it’s a flaw in Flatpak, but if you think adding a single line to your .bashrc is some kind of unbearable burden that you shouldn’t have to endure and you’re willing to make your own experience far worse just to avoid it, then I think you’re being a bit silly. I mean, be as silly as you want. Don’t let me tell you what to do. You are being silly though.

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          if you think adding a single line to your .bashrc is some kind of unbearable burden that you shouldn’t have to endure and you’re willing to make your own experience far worse just to avoid it, then I think you’re being a bit silly.

          I’m making my experience much better actually? Stop justifying flatpak’s flaws because you like flatpak. It’s flawed. Deal with it.

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            I don’t even like flatpak very much, I’m not currently using it at all, and I already agreed it was flawed right at the very start of the quote you cut off there. I was just trying to be helpful. Sorry. Won’t happen again. If you want to make things hard for yourself and no one else as a weird self-defeating protest then don’t let me stop you. Don’t pretend I didn’t do the thing I just did and you had to edit out of the quote though. That’s a real dick move, frankly.

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              8 months ago

              If you want to make things hard for yourself

              I’m sorry - but WTF? What part of me “doing something that is easier for me” also “making things hard for myself?” Talk about a “dick move”…

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        8 months ago

        No snaps are insecure on other distros that Ubuntu, as they are only isolated using apparmor. Also they are nonfree by design, just no.

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          8 months ago

          They’re not insecure. No more so than when I install a package via apt. No more so than when I download some code and compile it. This is propaganda.

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                8 months ago

                You have the option to add the verified subset only, and you can always check permissions before starting an installed app, and it will not start before.

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                    8 months ago

                    Yeah with Snaps you also have unofficial packages, no apparmor at all and a mix of foss and nonfoss apps.

                    But with flatpak these things are accessible and Flatseal is very commonly used.

                    “Already perfect” vs. “Has the foundation to fix it easily” distros could easily allow to add the subset or improve the permission system.

            • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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              8 months ago

              Indeed - if your understanding of “secure” is that simple then that definition works fine.

              In the real world there is no such thing as “secure” and “insecure” - there are tradeoffs and levels of security.

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                Oh yeah for sure I’m just mentioning what it means in this context. Definitely means snap is more insecure off Ubuntu though.