• guojing@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    The “strongest military alliance on the planet” lost a war against some guys with AKs and IEDs in Afghanistan exactly one year ago. NATO would be a joke by now if it werent for nuclear weapons.

    I assume your second paragraph refers to the United States’ regime change and inatigation of civil war that happened in 2014. Sadly I still fail to see Europe treating the U.S l. as the threat it is. Instead we are supposed to freeze and starve for Ukrainian fascists.

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      2 years ago

      everyday Ukrainians are dying, regular people like you and me. when you say ‘ukrainian fascists’ I find it really offensive. The russian rockets don’t ask about the political ideology before they blow up innocent civilians.

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        Concern trolling. Russia is totally open to humanitarian corridors and opened one in Mariupol. The Azov fascists however fired at anyone that tried to leave.

        Zelensky, right after the war started, prevented all men of fighting age from leaving the country just in case they might conscript them.

        Ukraine made it illegal just recently to accept food from Russia in occupied areas. If you do, you will be considered a collaborator and sentenced to 15 years in prison.

        They used to tie people up to lampposts in Kiev and other cities (a form of mob justice for “crimes” such as “stealing”, allegedly) and leave them here while air raids sirens would presumably go off. They probably still do it, I just haven’t seen anything new about it.

        In fact Ukraine did not activate the air raid sirens in time while the siege of Kiev was going on, despite receiving warnings from Russia that they would strike. People could not get to shelters in time because the siren would ring just several minutes before the missile struck.

        Yes Russia is killing civilians. I’m not gonna pretend war leaves civilians unharmed. But Ukraine is making the situation worse for their own people. Ukraine is using its civilian population as atrocity propaganda. If you want something to be appalled that, this is it.

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        2 years ago

        Neither do Ukrainian artillery shells or anti person mines which are landing on Donetsk, killing civilians. By fascists Im not refering to civilians, but to the soldiers who operate these weapons, and the ones who command them.

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          2 years ago

          There’s nothing like it in Donets. Stop spreading Putin’s propaganda.