• jazzfes@lemmy.ml
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    3 years ago

    I think a UBI can sit in parallel with other initiatives. For instance you can have universal healthcare and education, while still having UBI.

    I also think that just because an idea can be perverted, it doesn’t mean that it has to be that way or that there are no positive sides to it.

    I’m critical of UBI as a single, silver bullet. However, I do think that there is potential for it to play a role in creating more just societies.

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      3 years ago

      But would we still need ubi if basics social services are provided?

      Like if access to housing, food, healthcare, education and culture was secured for all?

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      3 years ago

      Often proponents of UBI say that to finance it one can replace the inefficient provision of other social services, so having both is usually the not argument.

      I think what most people fail to understand is that the very basis of our current economic system is to incentivize people to find exploits (see all the talk about “disruptors” and so on). And it is an unhealthy co-dependent relationship with the bureaucratic regulators, who to a large extend justify their existence on curbing the worst excesses of these exploits.

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        3 years ago

        I think when people talk about UBI replacing wellfare, they’re mostly talking about things like food stamps and disability pay. Basic infastructure like public transit and basic necessicities like free universal healthcare and education would not be negatively affected.