Abolishing IP rights would probably mean every dude with a passion project idea for a superhero film would set about making that a reality. Whether they could get other people to work with them on it (presumably the only remaining barrier to entry) is another story I guess, but that shitty Spiderman fan film became a reality and that was under capitalism.
The differences from the current scene would be
- More passion less product
- It wouldnt be the overwhelming majority of films coming out
- More alternative options if you dont like the Official Product
- Probably some original ideas rather than just adaptions
Like guys not only would there still be an MCU, thered be like 10 competing ones. Live action reboots, animimated ones, and probably more than one claiming to be the sucessor to the Disney one.
To me this would be fucking awesome but i just want to prepare the rest of you lol
Under communism we will have a film where 75% of it is just Thor and the Hulk fucking hardcore with extreme penetration closeups
It will sweep the Oscars
instead of by members of the academy of motion pictures, the oscars will be decided by everyone named oscar
There will only be two categories, based and cringe
Hosted by Oscar Isaacs and Oscar the Grouch
I used to argue this in high school when trying to pitch getting rid of IP to liberal marvel nerds. It sometimes worked. Imagine if movies were made by people who actually loved them instead of boardroom executives. Like if you’re a Batman fan imagine how cool it would be to get 50 fucking low budget, Batman movies . There’s literally no downside .
Yeeeeees this is the dream. I find this argument works pretty well with liberals true. Theyll try the “ip should belong to the author” move but then you point out that the Avengers dont belong their creators they belong to Disney.
non-corporate capeshit will be infinitely more interesting than corporate capeshit
also who cares just don’t watch it
signed person who doesnt watch capeshit
Yes exactly, it will be more interesting and there will be plenty of other stuff so you can just avoid it.
This thread is absolutely here to anger the “communism is when art i dont like doesnt exist” types but its also objectively true.
“communism is when art i dont like doesnt exist”
Marx: Das Kapital Vol 3
Under communism there are actually more superhero movies
Rare park W. You give everyone the time and acess to resources necessary to make art, theyre going to make art. And a lot of those people will be comics nerds with some weird idiosyncratic idea of what the perfect Batman/Superman/Spiderman/X-Men/whatever flik would look like.
“art”
Nice try, but art is not a superlative.
Eta: also thinking so is fascist
creating capeshit will be declared a counter revolutionary crime punishable by unlimited restorative labor. Such wreckers will be forced to watch 4 hour long B&W foreign films and socialist-realist art of sweaty men working in a foundry until their aesthetic sensibilities have been fully reeducated to adhere to the ideological mass line agreed to by the United Anti-Capeshit People’s Liberation Front (Marxist-Leninist-Scorseseist)
Being caught watching capeshit will be punished by being forced to watch every mosfilm release in chronological order.
capeshit will be way way hornier without IP law.
I think art would just radically change in a new society. I’m not sure if superheroes as a concept would even exist. By this, I mean I’ve read somewhere that said kung fu and wuxia protagonists are the Chinese equivalent of superheroes, meaning wuxia protagonists aren’t themselves superheroes but come from a similar human desire to tell stories about larger-than-life figures doing fantastical feats. But there are differences between wuxia protagonists and Western superheroes, the key different being wuxia protagonists usually become larger-than-life through training and some spiritual insight while Western superheroes are either born with innate abilities or acquire them through a freak accident. It’s the difference between how the Force was characterized in the OT versus how the Force was characterized in the prequels. This is where the “superheroes are eugenics” take come from.
I think most popular iteration of superheroes (there would presumably at least be a niche audience who still want the pre-socialist conception of the characters just like how there are people today who enjoy reading medieval romances) would have their backstories radically change. There’s also no reason why current superheroes can’t become supervillians and vice versa as societal values radically change. I don’t see someone like Batman being relatable as a superhero in socialist society. Like, Batman’s backstory reads more like a supervillian than an actual hero. He’s just some bourgie fuck who treats his childhood trauma by beating the shit out of the lumpenproletariat dressed in some cringey costume. But there’s nothing stopping Batman from becoming a fascist supervillian. Maybe in socialist society, the Joker is treated as a deeply flawed but ultimately sympathetic proletarian hero while Batman is just some pampered and spoiled rich brat who gets off at beating the poors. I mean, this website already characterizes the Joker and Batman like this lmao
I think this would take like at least a generation though. Immediatly after revolution youre going to have people who just wanna tell Batman stories because they grew up with Batman stories I think.
That’s fine.
If it has capeshit, it’s not my revolution
Get used to it bucko.
Idk what Emma Goldman has to do with anything lol
unironically this. artistic expression under communism will not just be some variation of the last brainfart of the drained and beaten to death popular imagination that’s comicbook movies
like fucking hell people if this is how far your imagination reaches we can give up.
I’ve been saying for years that anyone should be allowed to make a Spiderman. Let’s bring back low budget capeshit that barely resembles the source material. I want a variety of spidered men for all tastes. Most would be absolute garbage but some of that garbage would be awesome and there would still be some interesting shit.
But also, if anyone can make a superhero movie, that could be a step towards taking the capeshit out of capeshit - superhero movies suck because it’s the same couple studios just copying each other for over a decade and preventing innovations (good or bad).
I’m making spiderman and it’s a cheesy romcom now.
Under communism there will be a Toei Marvel Universe where all the super heroes can call in giant mechas and regularly battle the Putty Patrol.
The thing is, as much as it would apply to the MCU, it would apply to all content-- including the stuff you love.
That obscure early 2000s vampire manhwa you latched onto in your goth phase? Suddenly, we have an fan movie franchiae that runs 92 installments.
The weird software you ran on Macintosh System 7? Some enthusiast is going to adapt it to federate with Mastodon and add Steam achievements.
After the revolution I’m going to make superman black and gay.
The G*mers can’t stop me.
They’ve done both of these in the comics lol.
https://superman.fandom.com/wiki/Calvin_Ellis https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Jonathan_Samuel_Kent_(Prime_Earth)
Not both at the same time though!
Debut Final Crisis #7 (March 2009)
He became superman, in addition to being president
Someone really thought “what if we made obama superman tho”
Shit. Has there been a trans Super
manwoman yet?Not to my knowledge! Not many trans superheroes in general really. So thats definitely a gap to fill.
Nice, gotta hit the trifecta and cause the G*mers to spontaneously combust.
I mean, I like superheroes as a concept. I just don’t like the focus-grouped slop that is currently filling up the trough