Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good. All my friends and family use Signal, it was a multi-year effort to pull that off. Signal will roll out usernames faster than the tide will turn, so let’s take our wins and learn to be better.
Well, I force my social circle to use element.io (matrix.org) or they are not going to be able to talk to me. I don’t need to talk to anyone, but they need to talk to me to ask me to help with their stuff, so they are joining to element.io. I never used Signal because asking for a phone number or making closed source claiming it is to stop spammers sounds stupid requirements or arguments.
I don’t get any spam on matrix.org and on channels we have bots to review and block spammers.
Also, I neither like how Signal discard F-Droid and forces us to use Google. I think they also use Google Push notifications.
Element had a lot of issue last time i’ve tested it: push notification issue, convulated ui, e2e encryption disabled by default, slow server.
I had my own server for a while for my SO and I and we often missed each other messages plus the client was draining my phone battery.
I love the briding capacity of matrix, I woulf like to spend an evening setting that up in order to aggregate all those messaging apps but I’m afraid it’s not worth it.
This is my argument for Telegram. It’s clients are open source and has good Linux support. And unlike Signal it’s actually nice to use. (non-tech people usually dislike using Signal, but the feedback from Telegram is very positive)
I can’t fathom why they insist on sticking with this. It’s so obviously a de-anonymization technique, which is completely at odds with the rest of their stated goals. I haven’t made a Signal account for exactly this reason.
You can care about privacy, or you can ask a phone number during sign up. Those things are mutually exclusive.
Don’t use Signal you care about privacy.
Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good. All my friends and family use Signal, it was a multi-year effort to pull that off. Signal will roll out usernames faster than the tide will turn, so let’s take our wins and learn to be better.
Yhea.
I can almost exclusively chat with my social circle with signal now, been using it since 8-9 years.
I’ve tried xmpp, matrix and some other. Signal is the only one that stuck, it’s not perfect but it’s fucking fine from my perspective.
Well, I force my social circle to use element.io (matrix.org) or they are not going to be able to talk to me. I don’t need to talk to anyone, but they need to talk to me to ask me to help with their stuff, so they are joining to element.io. I never used Signal because asking for a phone number or making closed source claiming it is to stop spammers sounds stupid requirements or arguments.
I don’t get any spam on matrix.org and on channels we have bots to review and block spammers.
Also, I neither like how Signal discard F-Droid and forces us to use Google. I think they also use Google Push notifications.
Element had a lot of issue last time i’ve tested it: push notification issue, convulated ui, e2e encryption disabled by default, slow server.
I had my own server for a while for my SO and I and we often missed each other messages plus the client was draining my phone battery.
I love the briding capacity of matrix, I woulf like to spend an evening setting that up in order to aggregate all those messaging apps but I’m afraid it’s not worth it.
All messages are encrypted by default unless on public channels. Speed is something they are going to improve now.
I don’t have any other issue.
Yhea they’re improving quite a lot, it’s great to read. Do they encrypt metadata now?
I have checked right now and seems they are still debating the implementation…
I hope they will implement it soon. 😥
I’ve missed that. It’s great :)
Hope they solve it soon.
And yes signal is far from perfect and moxie view on some key point such as centralization are not mine. Still it’s solid software .
This is my argument for Telegram. It’s clients are open source and has good Linux support. And unlike Signal it’s actually nice to use. (non-tech people usually dislike using Signal, but the feedback from Telegram is very positive)
Except e2ee isn’t on by default at telegram.
That’s why I prefer Matrix. But it’s hard to convince people to use Matrix so Telegram it is.
You’re conflating privacy with anonymity. Signal is not anonymous, but it is private.
I can’t fathom why they insist on sticking with this. It’s so obviously a de-anonymization technique, which is completely at odds with the rest of their stated goals. I haven’t made a Signal account for exactly this reason.