Hey-ho, privacy enthusiasts

I’m currently traveling around the world, and thinking about staying in Europe for 5ish years

But i’m a tinfoil guy and aware of the “many eyed beast”

So, what do you think? All lies and everything is actually dystopian, or everything should be fine?

I’m actually thinking about 4 countries like Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Greece (because don’t like cold, and actually a little bit sick of other countries in the EU😅😅😅)

  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
    131·
    9 months ago

    Most shops have online presence. You can easily compare the price of tinfoil rolls using Google translate.

  • Sylocule@lemmy.one
    7·
    9 months ago

    Here in Spain there’s minimal surveillance outside the big cities. My town (circa 40K residents) has no public cameras in town (I lived in the UK and they were everywhere).

    • Gooey0210@sh.itjust.worksOP
      31·
      9 months ago

      Get it, get it

      But cameras are not the only concern, what’s about internet traffic analysis, piracy, ability to rent something or get some service like sim or home internet without documents and stuff

      Or even transportation, like busses, trains, etc

      Don’t get me wrong, i’m asking so I can have a better picture of how the stuff really works

      • Sylocule@lemmy.one
        2·
        9 months ago

        Gotcha

        Internet is somewhat restricted but only the most common sites are blocked

        Renting requires ID - passport or Spanish ID, same with Internet or a SIM card

        Transportation there’s no ID requirements on buses and trains

        • Gooey0210@sh.itjust.worksOP
          21·
          9 months ago

          Renting requires ID - passport or Spanish ID

          Does the landlord register the people that rent the place?

          or a SIM card

          How common is someone selling preregistered sim cards?

          • fluckx@lemmy.world
            5·
            9 months ago

            I don’t think you can a sim card anonymously in europe. You might be able to find some online, though I have no idea:

            - how legal they are

            - if they function at all/normally

            At least in my country ( which isn’t one you listed ) you cannot buy an anonymous SIM card in shops due to some anti terrorism law ( iirc ).

            I thought it was like that for the whole of Europe, but I could be wrong.

            Apparently there are still EU countries where you can buy anonymous SIMs.

          • Sylocule@lemmy.one
            2·
            9 months ago

            Depends on the landlord - some are dodgy and won’t register you because they don’t declare the income

  • plague-sapiens@lemmy.world
    3·
    9 months ago

    Depends on your threat model… What do you think could cause problems while traveling through Europe in your opinion?

    • Gooey0210@sh.itjust.worksOP
      22·
      9 months ago

      I know Europe is probably like the best place for digital privacy, but at the same time for me it’s unsettling to see that some of the European cities are the most surveiled cities in the world, and how even countries in Europe are trying to ban e2e encryption

      Add the 5-9-14 eyes, strict anti piracy rules in some countries, stories about people getting arrested for messaging something, or doing something political, and you will get a pretty grim picture

      My main problem with this, I don’t like being surveiled, nobody needs to have a thread model against being surveiled, because this is just nuts

      Probably my stand is a little bit radical, I usually don’t carry a sim card, use Lora for a remote access to my home server, I would never go to the land of free or use any of their services, same with the land of China

      • Damage@feddit.it
        4·
        9 months ago

        Come to Italy then. Our services don’t give a fuck unless you’re actually a terrorist.

        And you can pirate all you want with no repercussions.