I am currently using EndeavourOS, but am annoyed by the constant daily updates of 1GB and pacman not installing important dependencies automatically (ex: spell checker for document editor). I like the way Fedora works: you update whenever, important dependencies are downloaded automatically, and packages are recent-ish, but I don’t like that it takes forever to run dnf. I don’t want to use Manjaro (apparently it breaks quickly?), and the distro needs to support KDE. I know about Flatpak, but I don’t want to download 1GB of data for each app. Are there any good options?

(Yes, I can probably deal with Fedora, but dnf is slower than apt, and I don’t want to deal with external repositories for non-free software.)

EDIT: I do not want to tweak or edit configuration files, I just need something that has up to date packages and “just works”.

  • Yardy Sardley@lemmy.ca
    29·
    10 months ago

    There’s openSUSE tumbleweed. It’s rpm based like fedora and it’s rolling-release like arch. I don’t know what the 3rd party/nonfree software situation is like. Maybe someone else can chime in on that front.

    I will add, as an arch user, I think you could easily tweak your current system to be less annoying with the updates, but I realize that’s not the question you’re asking so feel free to disregard that.

      • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
        6·
        10 months ago

        Yeah I love opensuse but zypper is the slowest thing in the world. It takes it several minutes just to refresh repositories a lot of the time

          • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
            1·
            10 months ago

            I love using opensuse, don’t worry I have tried to make packages with obs and it did not go well. But then again I’m bad at making packages for most things.

  • Nibodhika@lemmy.world
    25·
    10 months ago

    Important is subjective, do you consider Spanish spell checker important for your document editor? How about Arabic or Chinese? Why would you want all of that bloat installed by default? Better than whoever needs spell checker in a specific language installs that.

    When you install a program Pacman lists the optional dependencies for it, just install the ones you want and that’s it.

    As for daily updates you don’t need to update daily, just weekly or monthly is good enough, just because there are updates available doesn’t mean you should install them asap.

  • think1984@lemmy.mlEnglish
    17·
    10 months ago

    To speed up DNF:

    /etc/dnf/dnf.conf  
...
max_parallel_downloads=5
max_parallel_connections=20

    I have found that RHEL/Rocky/Alma are very much faster at updating using DNF than Fedora, though I don’t know why.

    • Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      2·
      10 months ago

      Fedora 41 specifically is when it’s planned to be introduced, which would release towards the end of the year. It was initially planned for 39 but got delayed sadly, though I think there’s a way to swap to it for testing? But yeah, hopefully DNF can shirk the obvious “did not finish” joke because it really is slow

  • blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.ukEnglish
    101·
    10 months ago

    Try using yay with EndeavourOS. It’s much easier than pacman for most standard stuff but if you have to you can use pacman too as yay is basically a wrapper around pacman.

    To do a full update you literally just type yay. To install something it’s yay <searchterm> and then you’re given a list of possibilities including your related sub packages and can make multiple selections at once.

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
    9·
    10 months ago

    Doesn’t

    sudo pacman -S package_name

    Install packages along with their dependencies?

    sudo pacman -Syu

    Will synchronize the database and update all packages, including their dependencies.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
        81·
        10 months ago

        That’s because Arch is all about user control, and they want you to pick which optional ones you want. I agree though that it would be useful to have a flag that just installed everything.

        • Nibodhika@lemmy.world
          10·
          10 months ago

          That’s a bad idea, even going back to his question, he wants spell checker, should it install every single language? It’s likely a bad idea to do that, you’ll get a lot of things you don’t need. Not to mention optional dependencies might contradict each-other if several of them perform the same service, e.g. video playback backend

  • Joker@discuss.tchncs.de
    73·
    10 months ago

    Check out ublue. They have Silverblue/Kinoite images with some extras to make it a more usable without having to layer it yourself. It updates in the background and you get the new version whenever you decide to reboot. It keeps a few snapshots so you can rollback right in the grub menu. You can even run an Arch container on top of Kinoite with distrobox and get apps from there. Or you can fork their image and make your own immutable OS.

    • MalReynolds@slrpnk.netEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      ^This. I run ublue-kinoite with Arch distroboxes for dev. Rock solid, implicitly rollback-able main OS with the AUR in your pocket. What’s not to love?

  • lemmyreader@lemmy.ml
    77·
    10 months ago

    Manjaro, even though not loved by most, does this, Arch based but few updates per time unit.