• ancom@lemmy.mlOP
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    3 years ago

    That’s not what I’m saying here. I’m saying that their mind set is dogmatic. That does not mean that it’s permanent, but if you aim to create a dialogue that gives a chance to question such dogmas, it is useful to understand they exist. If you create a dialogue where the dogma can just justify itself, it will deepen their ideological believes.

    You want to question their dogmas? Understand how they function first.

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      3 years ago

      Yeah, I agree to that, but posting some age old stuff a calling them “tankies” doesn’t help a single bit and is probably counter-productive.

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        3 years ago

        remembering history is important. learning from history is important. narratives are strong influence of our culture. history effects narratives and many tankies use history for their justification.

        I play with narratives

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          3 years ago

          Have fun trying to beat them on their own turf. Most of them are obsessive about the (false) history of the bolshevik revolution :p Dogmatic as you say.

          Easier to try and create some cognitive dissonance on more contemporary topics.

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                  3 years ago

                  And you think you will reach “bystanders” by posting these things? At best they will say this all sucks and go somewhere else, or worse you will get into some petty argument with a “tankie” that they are likely to win in the eyes of a bystander as you are engaging the “tankie” on their turf.

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                    3 years ago

                    And you think you will reach “bystanders” by posting these things?

                    not if most jump into their defence like you.

                    What do you suggest? What have you done yourself from which you believe I could learn from?

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                  3 years ago

                  you mind linking some threads from you or someone else that you believe are great to counter tankie ideology?

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                    3 years ago

                    No I don’t, because I don’t subscribe to this “countering” culture. I engage in building alternatives and offering bridges even to those that I don’t fully agree with.