"During the 1930s, many communists and socialists from Germany and Austria sought refuge from the Nazis in the USSR. But in a shocking betrayal, the Soviet secret police handed over hundreds of them to Hitler’s Gestapo… https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/hitler-stalin-pact-nazis-communist-deportation-soviet
Have fun trying to beat them on their own turf. Most of them are obsessive about the (false) history of the bolshevik revolution :p Dogmatic as you say.
Easier to try and create some cognitive dissonance on more contemporary topics.
like this you mean? https://lemmy.ml/post/77978/comment/73363
I am not saying it will be easy ;)
that’s what lemmy is about: https://lemmy.ml/post/78808/comment/75033
oboarding new folks. Don’t forget all the bystanders and how to reach them in your reasoning.
And you think you will reach “bystanders” by posting these things? At best they will say this all sucks and go somewhere else, or worse you will get into some petty argument with a “tankie” that they are likely to win in the eyes of a bystander as you are engaging the “tankie” on their turf.
not if most jump into their defence like you.
What do you suggest? What have you done yourself from which you believe I could learn from?
I for example run the /c/solarpunk community here on lemmy. Which I see as an onboarding exercise for forward looking (future) anarchists.
There is nearly no engagement, and it says “3 active user per month”.
Most if not all content that I see there does not contradict tankie logic. Looks to me just like adding more value to a tankie platform and helping them grow.
Yeah it could be more active… but solarpunk is inherently anti-authoritarian (by design) and that it isn’t in-your-face counter something is a strong point of it from the on-boarding perspective.
you mind linking some threads from you or someone else that you believe are great to counter tankie ideology?
No I don’t, because I don’t subscribe to this “countering” culture. I engage in building alternatives and offering bridges even to those that I don’t fully agree with.
well then can you show me an example of that?