"During the 1930s, many communists and socialists from Germany and Austria sought refuge from the Nazis in the USSR. But in a shocking betrayal, the Soviet secret police handed over hundreds of them to Hitler’s Gestapo… https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/hitler-stalin-pact-nazis-communist-deportation-soviet
Great, post some more examples of what happened in Syria then! The story is indeed a bit more complex and warrants some debate about!
what ever genocide it is,tankies will always justify it if it is done by a country that they claim to be an ally.
It is an ideological concept that you can’t disproof with logic. It is an dogma, that justifies itself.
Yes because tankies belong to some sort of hive-mind and will never ever be able to change their mind /s
(especially when we are not even trying to convince them, but just like to have a happy in-group circle jerk about how bad these “tankies” are).
That’s not what I’m saying here. I’m saying that their mind set is dogmatic. That does not mean that it’s permanent, but if you aim to create a dialogue that gives a chance to question such dogmas, it is useful to understand they exist. If you create a dialogue where the dogma can just justify itself, it will deepen their ideological believes.
You want to question their dogmas? Understand how they function first.
Yeah, I agree to that, but posting some age old stuff a calling them “tankies” doesn’t help a single bit and is probably counter-productive.
remembering history is important. learning from history is important. narratives are strong influence of our culture. history effects narratives and many tankies use history for their justification.
I play with narratives
Have fun trying to beat them on their own turf. Most of them are obsessive about the (false) history of the bolshevik revolution :p Dogmatic as you say.
Easier to try and create some cognitive dissonance on more contemporary topics.
like this you mean? https://lemmy.ml/post/77978/comment/73363
I am not saying it will be easy ;)