• autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    9 months ago

    “Male power fantasy” seems somewhat reductive for Clark tbh. Good Superman works focus on who he is as a person and his human connections rather than hitting dudes. Not to mention the importance of things like Siegel and Schuster being jewish to his origins. And the immigration parallels.

    He’s been written as an obtuse male power fantasy before but thats not really the core of the charachter.

    I dont have good analysis of Goku tho

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      9 months ago

      Not gonna get into goku too much, but generally I think it can be summed up with “he has too much personality to be a mary sue”. Goku is goku, even hearing his creator made him as a parallel to Superman is crazy because he doesn’t act like Superman. He’s goku.

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        I don’t think the Superman stuff was originally there, since Goku started out as a version of the Monkey King from Journey to the West. But in the Saiyan Saga, when Goku’s backstory gets revealed by Raditz, there’s definitely a lot of parallels to Superman - the biggest difference is that the Saiyans are fully evil wheras the Kryptonians were just kind of arrogant.

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          I don’t think the Superman stuff was originally there, since Goku started out as a version of the Monkey King from Journey to the West.

          Adult [or even teenage] Goku is way closer to Superman than Sun Wukong, though I don’t think he’s especially close to either.