Obviously a hypothetical scenario. There is no way to pass on the knowledge to anyone else. Time freezes for you only, and once you have your answer you are out of this world.

The question can allow you to see into the past, present and future and gain comprehension of any topic/issue. But it’s only one question.

Edit: the point isn’t “how to cheat death”. You can’t. Your body is frozen and there is nothing you can do with this knowledge other than knowing it, and die. So if you would rather be frozen in a limbo just thinking of numbers for eternity, be my guest.

Such a variety of replies, it’s been really interesting to read them!

What would you want to know? Personally I’d want to see a timelapse or milestone glimpses of humanity’s future until the end of Earth’s existence (if we survive that long)

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    What was life like for ever human that has ever existed? I’d like to see every single day start to finish from their perspective, sorted as randomly as possible.

    The worst part of traditional immortality is being stuck as you, I’d like to experience the entire library and range of human experinces. It would eventually know how it started and how it all ended, while seeing every perspective that got us there. They’d be a lot of days toiling in a field, a lot of days in office cubicles toiling in excel, but most importantly I’d see the small victories and tragedies that make up every life. I think that’d be the real beauty.

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      I don’t want to ruin your idea, I think it’s kinda neat. But I think that you may be monkey pawing yourself.

      A tremendous amount people have suffered so much, that I’d probably not want the experience in its current form. The horrors of the holocaust, unit 731, and a lot of wars springs to mind, from just the last century.

      IDK how you could modify the question, but “no violent deaths” could be a starting point.

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        I don’t think there is a short clear way to avoid potential centuries of suffering. Living in pain could be worse than a violent death.

        Imagine a life time as a comatose patient who is still conscious and can hear but not respond?

        Years of nearly starving to death. Years of physical abuse? Slowly dying in a hospital from cancer / some other slow painful death.

        Hiker trapped alone on a mountain.

        In short no thanks.

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          Honestly, those are all selling points. I’d love to understand how a coma patient thinks a few months in, a few years in and a few decades in. What it’s like to die in war in the year, 700, 1700 & 2700. To die as a newborn and then eventually see how those very parents are affected. So long as it is randomized and I’m statistically likely to see something radically different tommorow, I don’t think I’ll ever get sick of the human experince.

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            No. It’s not a selling point and you don’t want it. I have a condition that puts every part of my body in pain continuously. It’s been 4 years and I’ve forgotten the sensation of painlessness. Many people with my condition kill themselves, not only because the pain alone is intolerable, but because every step of the way somebody will tell them they are being lazy or faking it.

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              I feel for you and I’m sorry you also are going through it. I don’t blame you for taking umbridge with this all. But I also live in constant pain as well, after a dog attack a few years ago I can’t walk for more than an hour at a time, laying sitting and standing all hurt and even with pain meds, I can only get to a dull ache. I can’t work and the life I had before is gone, it was such shit trying to prove to skeptical condescending doctors saying just to do stretches and it will get better, but… Here I am still waiting.

              So while I feel where you are coming from with this time of chronic pain, I am ready to deal with this and other life debilitating conditions if I also get to feel like it was to run again, to climb, to see through the eyes of an athlete. To be able to walk normally and enjoy events again. I’d take my own pain and yours again to feel human again.

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        Also, I’m sorry to say but I think the vast majority of people would be boring. We all have 1 or 2 interesting things happen to us in our lives but the humdrum of taking a shit and sleeping for 8 hours would get old fast

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          the humdrum of taking a shit and sleeping for 8 hours would get old fast

          Ageed I’m only halfway watching this poor sod’s life, and it’s soo boring. I’m not going to watch more of this.

          Maybe we could add a remote control and a library interface? Like choose whom to follow and then you can use ffw and a stop function?

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          Honestly, imagine watching Schindler’s List, Come and See, and Jean Dielman a billion times over. And then imagine that those films are each several decades in length.

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        I’d modify the question to specify that each life is presented as a unique and compelling motion picture, each between an hour and four hours in length, of the sort that would be likely to win either critical acclaim or box office success (or both) at some point in the late 20th to early 21st century - and that I get to watch them in an unending variety of well-staffed and enthusiastically-attended movie theaters, with interesting companions who I can discuss the movie with for as long as I want to afterwards, with endless credit to spend at the concessions, and with no bodily needs like discomfort or fatigue.

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      why limit the playback to human life? how about the vagaries of past/future speciation?

      seems like a special hell to me either way.

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      I also think this is the only fair version of reincarnation. If we are all everyone. If everyone has to live every life.

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    I’d pick an irrational number, say pi, and ask for every decimal digit of it. Then, I have infinite time to walk around the world in explore mode (i.e. I can’t die, and hence don’t need to eat etc…, and am effectively an infinite energy source, and can interact with objects) while time is frozen. This effectively makes me a god, but only for one point in time, with the ability to create a discontinuity in the world state at that point. I’d travel around the whole world (even if it involved swimming oceans) and try to make it so that the infinite sum of each action I take while the world is frozen converges on a world that is in a much better state infinitesimally after the moment compared to infinitesimally before.

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      But if you actually had infinite time, then that would mean that the world for all intents and purposes has ended. It would never continue, ever. No matter what you do, it would have absolutely no impact at all.

      Furthermore, I imagine if you actually had to wait infinitely long for the answer to finish, that would be like hell. There is only so much you can look at in a frozen world, assuming you would even be able to move at all. I can hardly imagine any happiness after some billions and trillions of years of no new stimuli in a frozen world.

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      And in a moment you’ll learn, that at your scale, for the practical purposes, the universe rounds pi to n numbers. E.g. ~3.1416. Check & mate.

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      Well I guess my bad for not being more explicit with my question, but your body is frozen as well. Only your mind has the ability to absorb the knowledge of one answer, and then you are gone. I’ve seen many asking for infinite answers in hopes of stretching time in a limbo, which wasn’t the spirit of my original post.

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    How is the entity or power that has the ability to grant me such knowledge connected to the existence of the universe?

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      I thought of asking that one, but then if the answer was no, my last thought would probably be that I was really worried about what happens when the living humans figure it out.

      Probably a lot of encryption would fail. That would be bad.

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    I want stats like the end of a game. How many red lights did I run, did anyone die by my actions, how many hours did I sleep, how many meals did I eat. Things like that.

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    I would like to know the detailed life history of every human that was ever born…

    Start taking I’ll wait :)

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      Sounds like a nightmare when you’re dying and probably in pain… It extends that painful state for a virtually infinite time.

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        Im not sure if there would be pain, but it’s a possibility. When I thought of the question I figured everything but your mind would freeze, perhaps I should have been more explicit when I phrased it. I understand those asking to experience the lives of others - even strangers- but I can’t understand those asking for an infinite answer such as a number in hopes of… What? Staying in a limbo doing nothing but absorbing a number?

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    Just “Why?” Leave this magical answers being confused and questioning humanity, like the rest of us.

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    By what mechanism did the universe come to be, or if it simply always existed, why does it exist in this particular way with these particular laws?

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    Assuming other implications (existence of an afterlife and God) with this scenario I would have but one question. Why? Why everything? Honestly I would be mad furious if there was an afterlife. More so if there was a God.

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      “In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.”

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      What if the afterlife was universally accessible like a participation prize and relative to each individual such that there wasn’t a single idealized version of happiness?

      Is that still fury invoking?

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        Not OP, but my fury in this instance would be because an omnipotent god allowed for all the suffering that happens to all living creatures when we could all just live with love and joy in our hearts, and god chose this instead.

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          What if the creator isn’t omnipotent and what if the universe isn’t the original copy?

          One of the ways to potentially achieve an afterlife would be to recreate the living creatures and their environment as simulated copies that wouldn’t need to die. The physical originals would die, but the copies would live on.

          Is it still unethical to recreate an evolved and chaotic universe of suffering if you could by doing so give each participant a much longer existence in a relative paradise for everyone?

          Would it be more ethical to have whitewashed history such that you exclusively recreate the privileged and fortunate denying those that suffered in an original reality from representation in a functionally eternal and relative paradise? i.e. Would it be better to pretend orphans didn’t exist than to accurately represent the historical reality while giving those recreations the opportunity to reunite with their parents in an uncapped afterlife?

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            Yes. Recreating a ‘relative paradise’ where people have to suffer over and over would be worse than having to live it once. If you could recreate the universe, would you make people suffer? Forever?

            What the fuck even is this argument? There’s no whitewashing if you start over every time anyway. Just make it better from the beginning.

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              If you could recreate the universe, would you make people suffer? Forever?

              Huh?

              No, the posed scenario is where you would recreate the individual as accurately as possible to match the historical reality and then after death give them an effective eternity of relative paradise as best matches their individuality.

              So an orphan could spend years and years of happiness with the parents they never really knew whereas someone with abusive parents might never see their parents at all and instead chose to erase traumatic memories or do whatever it is that gives them joy.

              The recreation of suffering in the thought experiment is solely for the purpose of recreating people who suffered such that you can give them an afterlife absent of suffering as they see fit. Because without recreating the suffering and the sufferers you’d only be creating a false depiction of Earth and humanity where you’d effectively exclude the downtrodden from resurrection by way of recreation.

              They don’t suffer over and over - they only suffer once in reliving an accurately representative life to the original reality upon which they are based, and from then on its their relative paradise.

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                I see what you’re saying, but I still don’t understand why the suffering has to occur here. If you have the data to recreate the suffering, you can just move on to the paradise without repeating it.

                You’ve come up with this scenario, but it doesn’t address my initial point that a god who created and allows suffering can suck it.

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                  If you have the data to recreate the suffering, you can just move on to the paradise without repeating it.

                  It’s a good point, but there’s two caveats.

                  (1) That only works if individual lives are deterministic and have no free will, but not if you want the individuals born into historical circumstances have their own self-determination from there on out.

                  (2) What’s the subjective experience of that recreation? In a cosmic sense, everything we are experiencing right now has already happened in a different reference frame. Even if some being snapped its fingers and recreated a historical timeline all at once, it might not feel that way to the individual consciousnesses getting up to speed. Even if everything is deterministic and was instantaneously recreated, we may just be having an illusionary experience of it as a continuous series of events from birth to death. A variation of Boltzmann’s brain.

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            A couple of problems: a copy of me is not me, no amount of post-life paradise justifies injustice in life, not everyone deserve hapiness (no matter what moral framework you use), what is the point of life if there is an eternal paradice for everyone.

            From the moment I introduce afterlife some sort of God becomes necessary for any morality to work.
            Having no God works if I assume that life is finite. If life is finite then I must make myself as happy as possible. Living around and with people I can’t just be as selfish as possible, I must conform to society if I want to be in society, otherwise I will make my life so much more difficult.

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              a copy of me is not me

              That’s true. Unless you are the copy of an original, in which case the copy is you.

              no amount of post-life paradise justifies injustice in life

              Is it just to perform a painful surgery on a sick child in order to save their life?

              not everyone deserve hapiness

              Agree to disagree. The notion of cosmic justice for souls whose behavior in life is significantly dictated by the terms of their embodiment and environment is, to me, insane.

              what is the point of life if there is an eternal paradice for everyone

              Maybe the point of life isn’t absolute and is up to each person to find and define individually.

              If there is any degree of intelligence in the design of the universe, the fact that there’s no absolute frame of reference for macro observations and relative measurements of micro details might just be relevant.

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                That’s true. Unless you are the copy of an original, in which case the copy is you.

                In which case I’m not the original, my point exactly.

                Is it just to perform a painful surgery on a sick child in order to save their life?

                The analogy breaks down rather quickly when you start to expand the definition of a surgery. Dying because of war is not surgery and if it is who and how decides on the goal of the surgery?

                What if I don’t want the surgery and want to live out the rest of my days in comfort?

                Agree to disagree. The notion of cosmic justice for souls whose behavior in life is significantly dictated by the terms of their embodiment and environment is, to me, insane.

                I actually agree with you. However my point is about a subjective morality rather than a cosmic one. Any definition of morality and meaning of life will ultimately break if this life is not the one and only. As soon as you try to fit afterlife into this you have to have some omnipotent power to define the rules of it. Otherwise none of your actions matter, you’ll still get afterlife, be it heaven or hell.

                Having life be finite and bound to physical conditions: being a social creature in an imperfect world. Is enough to have a robust and consistent moral rules and meaning. That’s where my Occam’s razor kicks.

                In the end no matter what framework of thought you choose there is gonna be good and bad things and people doing them, hence not everyone will deserve happiness.

                Maybe the point of life isn’t absolute and is up to each person to find and define individually.

                If there is any degree of intelligence in the design of the universe, the fact that there’s no absolute frame of reference for macro observations and relative measurements of micro details might just be relevant.

                And that’s where my anger would stem from. If there is no knowable and proovable absolute truth. Than the simplest subjective frame of reference that makes sense is that there is no meaning or reason. Life is finite, make the best of it and enjoy it to the fullest because that’s all there is.

                I’m not going into the aspects of life that are not individual and affect others. There are law based, moral and social-utalitarian reasons why I would want to live in a society and bring as little suffering as I possibly can.

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                  What if I don’t want the surgery and want to live out the rest of my days in comfort?

                  Aye, that is a key issue as there’s no informed consent to being born.

                  But how much of that is the fault of a creator of a universe and how much one’s parents? FWIW, one of the traditions that thought similar to what we are discussing was fairly against having kids.

                  It could be managed if we are exact copies of people who lived, as if the originals consented to it then we may well be in a kind of Severance situation where you exist in a world of suffering because you (in a sense) consented to it.

                  Though it is arguably more interesting if rather than exact copies we are an archetypical copy of humanity. Individual and unique in our own existence here and now, but an accurate aggregate resemblance of humanity circa 2023.

                  There, informed consent very much is a challenge as there’s many who would want our metaphorical surgery and others who would not and they can’t express an opinion until they exist in the first place.

                  If there is no knowable and proovable absolute truth.

                  But a knowable and probable absolute truth collapses the possible options.

                  If someone really hates the idea of continuing to exist in any way after death and feels like the existence of a god or not being an original would rob their life of meaning - should they be denied their ability to reject these ideas so that another is able to embrace them?

                  Vice versa, if we have the capacity to define things as different results for different observers, should we deny others the ability to have their own beliefs about the unknown by making a single option probable?

                  The relative measurement at small scales in our own universe only works when the thing being measured is unobserved until each individual observer making a measurement is separated from the others. If they are together, the measurement is singular for all involved.

                  Again - I will agree it causes a challenge with informed consent. But no belief system I’m aware of that has endorsed a similar model has also endorsed an omnipotent creator, and as long as there are logical limits in place the loss of absolute or prior informed consent in exchange for access to relatively ideal continued existence seems like it would be more than fair for most given commonly held beliefs.

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                  What if I don’t want the surgery and want to live out the rest of my days in comfort?

                  Aye, that is a key issue as there’s no informed consent to being born.

                  But how much of that is the fault of a creator of a universe and how much one’s parents? FWIW, one of the traditions that thought similar to what we are discussing was fairly against having kids.

                  It could be managed if we are exact copies of people who lived, as if the originals consented to it then we may well be in a kind of Severance situation where you exist in a world of suffering because you (in a sense) consented to it.

                  Though it is arguably more interesting if rather than exact copies we are an archetypical copy of humanity. Individual and unique in our own existence here and now, but an accurate aggregate resemblance of humanity circa 2023.

                  There, informed consent very much is a challenge as there’s many who would want our metaphorical surgery and others who would not and they can’t express an opinion until they exist in the first place.

                  If there is no knowable and proovable absolute truth.

                  But a knowable and probable absolute truth collapses the possible options.

                  If someone really hates the idea of continuing to exist in any way after death and feels like the existence of a god or not being an original would rob their life of meaning - should they be denied their ability to reject these ideas so that another is able to embrace them?

                  Vice versa, if we have the capacity to define things as different results for different observers, should we deny others the ability to have their own beliefs about the unknown by making a single option probable?

                  The relative measurement at small scales in our own universe only works when the thing being measured is unobserved until each individual observer making a measurement is separated from the others. If they are together, the measurement is singular for all involved.

                  Again - I will agree it causes a challenge with informed consent. But no belief system I’m aware of that has endorsed a similar model has also endorsed an omnipotent creator, and as long as there are logical limits in place the loss of absolute or prior informed consent in exchange for access to relatively ideal continued existence seems like it would be more than fair for most given commonly held beliefs.

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        Why bother living then? What is the point of existence if no matter what you do you end up the same?

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          I’m curious how you got to that conclusion from what I said?

          If anything, the notion of relative idealism is that for those that want to change it exists and for those that enjoy being themselves it need not.

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            What if the afterlife was universally accessible like a participation prize and relative to each individual such that there wasn’t a single idealized version of happiness?

            Ok, if afterlife is universally accessible and is perfect for me and my concept of happiness, then it would make the most sense to seek this afterlife as much as I possibly can. Because we are talking about afterlife the only way to get there is to die. The most reasonable conclusion then is that there’s no point in living and it’s much more beneficial to just die and go to infinine paradise.

            That’s why afterlife with no rules makes no sense to me.

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              I agree with you in cases where life here is more suffering than joy. The idea that we should cling to life no matter the situation isn’t good for individuals or society and has enabled horrible circumstances to be held over people who might have otherwise escaped them.

              I don’t see it the same way when joys outweigh suffering though.

              If I’m happy being me in the present, why rush being a happier me in the future if there is no time limit?

              I don’t skip my meals and order straight from the dessert menu.

              There are comments elsewhere in this thread by people who would want to experience all kinds of suffering to satisfy their curiosity.

              If one’s only concern is maximizing one’s own happiness in the short term regardless of impacts on loved ones, then yes, those people probably would be better off accelerating paradise. But long term with the term being potentially infinite there’s not really any increase to living a full life here vs jumping ahead and there’s very often likely fallout on loved ones by doing so, so it seems kind of pointless and callous to me if life is more good than bad.

              But yeah, I’m very much a proponent of euthanasia being openly available for people for whom life is more bad than good.

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                If I’m happy being me in the present, why rush being a happier me in the future if there is no time limit?

                Same question but inverse, why not? There is nothing to loose and something to gain. So why would anyone bother building life now when there is guaranteed happiness with simple and easy path.

                Saying I’m content with my situation and don’t want to change isn’t really an argument for either position. What existential gains are there for continuing? That would be an argument for your position.

                If one’s only concern is maximizing one’s own happiness in the short term regardless of impacts on loved ones, then yes, those people probably would be better off accelerating paradise.

                But that’s the thing, there is no impact. Why shouldn’t everyone else just go into eternal paradise? The whole issue with this hypothetical scenario is that it removes any need to live. At least Christianity has hell and sins to ballance it out. But in your case there are no existencial consequences, I can be as evil (which I have no desire for) or as good as I can and end up just the same.

                And yes, that does come close to a question Why not be evil then and eat babies or something? The difference here is that we are social creatures among other social creatures (except some outliers), we feel empathy and generally don’t want others to suffer. However even this argument breaks down somewhat when I keep unconditional paradise for everyone in the afterlife.

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                  There is nothing to loose and something to gain.

                  If your relative paradise smells like cinnamon rolls and your best friend’s smells like something you hate, what happens if both of you are entitled to your own relative ideals but you want to spend your time with your best friend?

                  On a technical level, something very much has to be irrevocably lost in leaving a world of shared but randomly generated experiences for one of relative excellence.

                  The only way that two eventual observers of a superposition can each measure different results is if they are separated from each other when observing it.

                  So even if you have friends and loved ones on the other side in your relative paradise, from an ‘identity’ perspective they won’t be exactly the same as the ones on this side.

                  That in and of itself seems a pretty good reason to me to be patient in living out a life in the here and now.

                  Why not be evil then and eat babies or something?

                  Because (a) most people don’t actually want to do that, and (b) there’s social consequences for eating babies in this world.

                  Actually, if eating babies is the most important thing to someone’s happiness, that’s one of the cases where jumping ahead to an existence where they could do that without consequence would make sense.

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          This will happen.

          Are you sure it hasn’t already happened?

          A few years ago I got to wondering if, like in most games I’ve played, there might be a 4th wall breaking bit of lore in our world history if it were a simulation.

          It took only a few weeks to find a text and tradition from antiquity attributed to the most famous individual in our world history claiming we were copies of a long dead spontaneous humanity as fashioned by an intelligence the original humanity brought forth in light. That we weren’t actually human at all, that the world to come has already happened and we just don’t realize it because we think time is linear and that we’re in a physical world instead of realizing it’s all just that intelligence’s light. And that this was done because the original humans’ souls depended on bodies that died, but the copies of what existed before will not taste death.

          That was pretty spot on for a 4th wall break and a bit out of its time and place with its thinking (though less than you might expect).

          So within the context of what you suggested, there could be a version of you that thinks it’s only X years old and that it’s only 2024 when in reality it might be much further into the future than that and in truth the oldest conscious version of ‘you.’ And this version of you right now may already be that far future version, just with limited subjective memory of anything outside your life here and now.

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      Personally I wasn’t assuming either the existence of God or an afterlife when I posted but I left it open to interpretation on purpose. I would totally agree with you if such was the case, it’s a valid question worth asking. I’m not sure if I’d be mad at an afterlife, that would depend on the answer to “why”, and what the afterlife was all about.

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        If I die today, as in stop existing completely, I wouldn’t have any questions. When I die I will no longer be, there will be no conscience, no memories, nothing. That is the death I desire.

        If I exist after death, even for a moment, that means death is not the end. Who am asking questions? Why can I ask one last question? How can I get one question / request fulfilled this one last time? I can’t really separate these things that easily.

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          Well- it’s a fantasy scenario. And the question happens right before death, not after. Your reasoning makes sense taking the situation literally, but in essence the post is about gaining knowledge just for the sake of knowledge, without any practical use or impact in your life.

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        I don’t want it. I have invested all of myself to the existence that I am. Why would I need to bother with it if there is afterlife.

        Life is only as meaningful as it is fleeting. As soon afterlife comes into the equation it nulifies all of that. Then you must invent God as an arbiter that gives meaning to your life.

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      Good news! Due to shrinkflation, hot dogs now come in 8-packs. Even better, the downsized buns fit standard dogs - no need to buy bun-length skinny hot dogs!

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      So, I figured it out. Why hot dogs come in packages of ten and hot dog buns come in packages of eight. See, the thing is, life doesn’t always work out according to plan. So be happy with what you’ve got, because you can always get a hot dog.

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    I’d like to see the details of the events from Nefertiti up through the end of the 19th dynasty and the activities of the sea peoples with a special focus on the figure of Muksus, in an interactive format where I could sort of scrub the timeline to fast forward or rewind and instantly move around the Mediterranean to observe the different events in different places in parallel.

    I wouldn’t mind having the same for the 1st century CE too, but that would be a secondary priority.

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    I would want to know if I could have accomplished anything different that I did. Could I have been a super successful NFL quarterback? Could I have been a lawyer? Could I have been president of the United States? Could I have been a rockstar or a movie star? Could I have been a bodybuilder? Could I have been a New York times best-selling novelist? I would like to know all the possibilities of what I might have been. I would like to see them lived out, what it looked like, what steps were taken, what decisions were made. Given the limited raw intelligence I had, the genetic potential of my physical body, what was the most I could have done with it?

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    Personally I’d want to see a timelapse or milestone glimpses of humanity’s future until the end of Earth’s existence (if we survive that long)

    I’d ask for the same thing, but not a glimpse, I’d ask for an immersive first person view, and not a timelapse, I’d want to see it in realtime.

    And just like that, I’d be reborn.

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      You’d have no agency though. You’d be a passenger in someone else’s mind, unable to communicate or intervene. I understand the appeal but personally, without agency I’d be bored quickly. I’d rather satisfy my curiosity in a shorter timeframe and be gone.

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      Jan 1st 2024 pic 1 of house

      Jan 1st 2199 pic 2 of same house

      Jan 1st 7019 pic 3 of same house on a piece of earth’s crust shatterd by by the destruction of earth.

      Hope you enjoyed your time-lapse!

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        Silly mortal, the earth ends in 2036 with the impact of Apophis. You can have the first one