• kux@kbin.social
    3613·
    11 months ago

    I agree with the point but it is kind of funny to see the oatmeal, the nickelback of comics, complaining about it

      • kux@kbin.social
        332·
        11 months ago

        I semi remember an interview with the guy from nickelback who said (obviously paraphrasing) that he studied the songs that reached number one in the rock chart, and noted that, ok they have this tempo, they have a key change here, etc etc, and set out to make a song that had those qualities. very successfully as it turned out.

        there’s the same sort of essential cynicism (and subsequent success) with the oatmeal

    • Masimatutu@mander.xyzOP
      55·
      11 months ago

      I have no idea what you’re on about. The fact that all of them did it means nobody did it out of specific stupidity, and that it was just very difficult to see it coming.

      • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
        181·
        11 months ago

        I’m playing devil’s advocate here, but I’ve actually heard from old timers in the Internet business warning that this was an actual problem for influencers back in 2012, so some people saw it coming and who doesn’t deserve some blame for lack of risk management.

          • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
            3·
            11 months ago

            I agree, the ‘old timers’ are the people who have been on the internet since the beginning, warning the new boom of influencers about how they are still relevant on the internet for the last 20/30 years.

      • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social
        61·
        11 months ago

        Especially with the way these companies positioned themselves. Google and Apple were the anti-Microsoft. Google even had the motto don’t be evil. Facebook was started by one of us! A hacker nerd dropout who loved open source. Of course he’s on our side!

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
        73·
        11 months ago

        It was not difficult to see where it was headed, even at the very beginning. It was just impossible to do anything about. When the majority of the common users only visit one site, and Google starts promoting that site above all others, burying relevant results, you have little choice but to put your stuff on that site. Matt (the guy who drew the cartoon) has been trying to migrate off of Facebook pretty much forever, but people don’t care.

            • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              20·
              11 months ago

              It’s unfair for to happen

              This does not make what happened those people’s fault

              Its the fault of the shitheads who run the sites and actually make those decisions

                • Masimatutu@mander.xyzOP
                  91·
                  11 months ago

                  All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don’t have a choice. The billionaires, however, do.

            • DrPop@lemmy.one
              11·
              11 months ago

              Creatives post they’re stuff anywhere and everywhere. It’s a lot of work. They are just trying to get by like the rest of us.

            • Masimatutu@mander.xyzOP
              7·
              11 months ago

              Justice is only one (overly simplistic) way of organising humans. It exists to discourage behaviour that harms others, but in my opinion it is way better to encourage people to do things for the better instead. Humans are cooperative creatures and a social order based entirely on tension is extremely unproductive.

              And don’t get me wrong, a lot of things in society deserve to be criticised and discouraged. But dealing in absolutes and assigning blame to an entire group of people is almost always overly simplistic and won’t get you anywhere.

    • Kaidao@lemmy.ml
      103·
      11 months ago

      Who are “creative” people? This is such a strange and vague demographic

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
      3·
      11 months ago

      Yes, and it’s not just creative types.

      There’s a whole lot of people building their businesses on top of other people’s businesses, and being super surprised when the rug gets pulled because the line went down.

      We need a way for people to discover things based on other things they like, without money getting in the way and fucking everything up.