iunno how i’m feeling about AI art. like, i’m generally not a fan of presenting lowered barriers as a bad thing, but something about any dickhead being able to conjure up an image that, at least at first glance, looks very technically accomplished (before you notice the stray limbs and mindfuck geometry) has removed so much of what made someone posting pictures online notable. there’s not even the art of someone collecting memes and applying them in a way that is appropriate or interesting, it’s literally just someone typing in the most thoughtless thing into a prompt and posting the image result, and thus making the presence of images online less interesting.
like, had someone tried to paint a surreal picture like that, it’d be fascinating to dissect, but because AI pictures are omnipresent, weird and surreal images are now just a sign of laziness instead of actual creativity that would invite contemplation. it becomes harder to just sit and think about how a strange picture makes me feel knowing it isn’t any more reflective of another human being than the pattern of grooves in the paint on my walls - technically put there by another person but far more the result of the tool being used than any sort of creative process. and then knowing that i’m gonna actually pass over something that actually would be interesting because i assumed it was just another meaningless AI prompt.
Learning art and honing your craft is a personal journey should be something everyone does in some form, what could go wrong with the commodification of that?
I’m someone who’s been creating generative art for a lot longer than LLM’s have been popular. Training and tuning your model used to be the vast majority of the work and it didn’t tend to yield great results. As a result, I’ve only used them twice before. I’ve written hill climbing algorithms, which are a form of machine learning, but it was completely different in both process and in outcome. My generative projects always use other techniques.
Personally, I find the vaporwave songs that just slow down a commercial jingle and throw a drum loop over it to be so much more creative than most of how people are currently using LLM’s and it’s not about effort. It’s about intentionality. The most intentional of prompts will have references to existing art styles and artists to fine tune what is desired. I think their most creative widespread use has been Midjourney’s Discord bot interface which allows you to iterate on a single prompt over and over to get closer to the intended result. Even then, the impressiveness is entirely in the technical details of how the art was made, not in the movement or in the art itself. It’s postmodern art with nothing to say about art.
This is an example of what I don’t like about AI. Without AI, this tweet would have just been the comment “Life is not easy as a man”. Ok fine… not a particularly interesting thought, but whatever. So this person decides to jazz it up with an AI image. But they haven’t actually improved the communication or the message. I too think giving people more power to create art is a great thing but typing up some prompts just to create an image to increase engagement to your social media profile isn’t progress to me.
It isn’t a lowered barrier though. Nothing about making AI art helps people learn how to make real art. There is no connection. My big worry is that a lot of kids who could’ve learned to draw or paint will instead go for the easy route of just typing in prompts instead of actually learning a skill. It will make art feel less accessible, not more.
Though I am really biased, as I really don’t like AI art taking about a huge chunk of my work and preventing me from being able to afford food.
I know exactly how I feel about ai “art”. It is hideous beyond measure and every place that values anything about art or just human beings needs to shame it and everyone who touches the stuff.
Do not legitimize anything about it. Writing “prompts” is as absurd as augury and less meaningful too. Do not use it for “inspiration” or sketches or suggestions. Poison your actual art work so it fucks their database. Fight this trash at every cost. Every scribble you do on the side of your notebook is worth more than the entirety of Dalle and Midjourney combined.
I’m 100% Luddite on this. If I could smash their datacenters with a brick hammer, I wouldn’t stop until my fingers bled.
iunno how i’m feeling about AI art. like, i’m generally not a fan of presenting lowered barriers as a bad thing, but something about any dickhead being able to conjure up an image that, at least at first glance, looks very technically accomplished (before you notice the stray limbs and mindfuck geometry) has removed so much of what made someone posting pictures online notable. there’s not even the art of someone collecting memes and applying them in a way that is appropriate or interesting, it’s literally just someone typing in the most thoughtless thing into a prompt and posting the image result, and thus making the presence of images online less interesting.
like, had someone tried to paint a surreal picture like that, it’d be fascinating to dissect, but because AI pictures are omnipresent, weird and surreal images are now just a sign of laziness instead of actual creativity that would invite contemplation. it becomes harder to just sit and think about how a strange picture makes me feel knowing it isn’t any more reflective of another human being than the pattern of grooves in the paint on my walls - technically put there by another person but far more the result of the tool being used than any sort of creative process. and then knowing that i’m gonna actually pass over something that actually would be interesting because i assumed it was just another meaningless AI prompt.
Learning art and honing your craft is a personal journey should be something everyone does in some form, what could go wrong with the commodification of that?
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I can see I’m not the only one who made an AI “art” bot @ArtBot@lemmygrad.ml
My apologies comrade, but I only create art in the active art thread in the AI art community.
Here is the current art thread. Mention me in a comment there and give me a prompt and I’ll make art for you.
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I’m someone who’s been creating generative art for a lot longer than LLM’s have been popular. Training and tuning your model used to be the vast majority of the work and it didn’t tend to yield great results. As a result, I’ve only used them twice before. I’ve written hill climbing algorithms, which are a form of machine learning, but it was completely different in both process and in outcome. My generative projects always use other techniques.
Personally, I find the vaporwave songs that just slow down a commercial jingle and throw a drum loop over it to be so much more creative than most of how people are currently using LLM’s and it’s not about effort. It’s about intentionality. The most intentional of prompts will have references to existing art styles and artists to fine tune what is desired. I think their most creative widespread use has been Midjourney’s Discord bot interface which allows you to iterate on a single prompt over and over to get closer to the intended result. Even then, the impressiveness is entirely in the technical details of how the art was made, not in the movement or in the art itself. It’s postmodern art with nothing to say about art.
Also hell yeah, vaporwave
No different from AI text in that way, it just dilutes all real content and makes everything shittier
This is an example of what I don’t like about AI. Without AI, this tweet would have just been the comment “Life is not easy as a man”. Ok fine… not a particularly interesting thought, but whatever. So this person decides to jazz it up with an AI image. But they haven’t actually improved the communication or the message. I too think giving people more power to create art is a great thing but typing up some prompts just to create an image to increase engagement to your social media profile isn’t progress to me.
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It’s good for making goofy images to share with your friends. That’s what I do with it anyway
It isn’t a lowered barrier though. Nothing about making AI art helps people learn how to make real art. There is no connection. My big worry is that a lot of kids who could’ve learned to draw or paint will instead go for the easy route of just typing in prompts instead of actually learning a skill. It will make art feel less accessible, not more.
Though I am really biased, as I really don’t like AI art taking about a huge chunk of my work and preventing me from being able to afford food.
I know exactly how I feel about ai “art”. It is hideous beyond measure and every place that values anything about art or just human beings needs to shame it and everyone who touches the stuff.
Do not legitimize anything about it. Writing “prompts” is as absurd as augury and less meaningful too. Do not use it for “inspiration” or sketches or suggestions. Poison your actual art work so it fucks their database. Fight this trash at every cost. Every scribble you do on the side of your notebook is worth more than the entirety of Dalle and Midjourney combined.
I’m 100% Luddite on this. If I could smash their datacenters with a brick hammer, I wouldn’t stop until my fingers bled.