• trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    You don’t have to trust the Tampa Bay Times. The article lists their sources:

    Our sources

    Post on X by Stew Peters, Nov. 9, 2023

    Instagram post, Nov. 13, 2023

    TikTok video, Nov. 9, 2023

    Email exchange with Israel Defense Forces spokesperson, Nov. 15, 2023

    Israel Defense Forces post on X, Oct. 9, 2023

    Email exchange with Stew Peters, Nov. 15, 2023

    Post on X, Oct. 9, 2023

    PolitiFact, ‘Died Suddenly’ repeats debunked COVID-19 vaccine claims, promotes conspiracy theory, Sept. 29, 2022

    PolitiFact, Stew Peters film ‘Watch the Water’ ridiculously claims COVID-19 is snake venom. That’s Pants on Fire, April 19, 2022

    France 24, Israeli army did not fire on own civilians at Nova music festival, Nov. 13, 2023

    France 24 English’s YouTube channel, Disproving claims that Israeli helicopter ‘fired on their own civilians’ at Nova music festival, Nov. 13, 2023

    Newsweek, Fact Check: Does Video Show Israel Helicopter Shoot Festival Goers? Nov. 13, 2023

    PolitiFact, Reports of 260 Israeli music fest deaths aren’t unsubstantiated. Photos, videos document toll, Oct. 13, 2023

    Middle East Monitor, Report: 7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative, Oct. 30, 2023

    The Grayzone, October 7 testimonies reveal Israel’s military ‘shelling’ Israeli citizens with tanks, missiles, Oct. 27, 2023

    The Associated Press, Israeli survivors recount terror at music festival, where Hamas militants killed at least 260, updated Oct. 9, 2023

    CNN, Desert horror: Music festival goers heard rockets, then Gaza militants fired on them and took hostages, updated Oct. 9, 2023

    Haaretz, Analysis | Failures Leading Up to the Hamas Attack That Changed Israel Forever, Oct. 20, 2023

    The Electronic Intifada, Israeli forces shot their own civilians, kibbutz survivor says, Oct. 16, 2023

    Middle East Observer, New evidence that IDF shelled Israeli citizens on Oct. 7, killing over a hundred, Oct. 29, 2023

    The Cradle, Israeli Apache helicopters killed own soldiers, civilians on 7 October: Report, Nov. 9, 2023

    Check Your Fact, FACT CHECK: Does This Video Show An Israeli Apache Helicopter Firing On Nova Music Festival? Nov. 14, 2023

    CNN, Israel festival revelers shot at point-blank range, video shows, Oct. 10, 2023

    The Middle East Monitor, About us, accessed Nov. 16, 2023

    LinkedIn, Middle East Monitor, accessed Nov. 16, 2023

    Bloomberg, Web Summit Says It’s Withdrawn Invite From The Grayzone Website, Oct. 26, 2022

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    The White House, Joint Statement on Israel, Oct. 9, 2023

    BBC News, Israeli music festival: 260 bodies recovered from site where people fled in hail of bullets, Oct. 9, 2023

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      Objectively, they didn’t do good journalism and cite primary sources.

      Primary sources were the interview with Yasmin Porat on Haboker Hazeh (which was censored by Israel) and the interview conducted with IDF helicopter pilots on, I think, Haaretz. Everything else is commentary on the same evidence.

      The fact that the Tampa Bay Times failed to cite those two primary sources really calls into question their legitimacy as an institution for journalism. It’s basic journalistic etiquette to cite primary sources where possible.