JERUSALEM (AP) — The head of surgery at Gaza’s largest and most advanced hospital held up his phone Saturday to the hammering of gunfire and artillery shelling. “Listen,” said Dr. Marwan Abu Sada as fighting raged around Shifa Hospital.

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    If that were true, then they would be sending in troops on the ground instead of indiscriminate bombings.

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      That not how that works the us tried that a few times in Afghanistan and the risk to their own people was too large compared to the lives saved which were next to none because of the hostage taking I know Israel is a shithole and Palestine is too but war isn’t as simple as just send people

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          From an outside perspective of course it isn’t but when you are a part of the military and you have the responsibility over your comrades lives you will do anything to protect them including killing people who you don’t know

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              I mean you have a point from a judicial standpoint and I’m not saying theyr behavior is ethical but I understand why they do what they do and i dprobablty do the same if it means my friends wouldn’t have to risk their life

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            Anything? Like punishing soldiers who kill innocent civilians including children and journalists during times of relative “peace”? Because that would surely have gone a long way to reducing the deaths of your “comrades”. Instead we have an Israeli sniper kill journalists and then the government says “they were armed with a camera”.

            No. They are not doing everything they can to protect their soldiers. They are not seeking peace. They are seeking silence and subjugation.

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        No, they decided after a while that Afghani civilians were not worth the equivalent of an American soldier. And that was several years after the invasion which took literally less than a month.

        Then they switched to bombing via drone, and Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize for convincing us that significant civilian collateral is a totally acceptable practice and definitely not some form of negligence for human life.

        Even then, it was during the post invasion state. After the Taliban had been mostly destroyed and left in a dismantled state.

        Israel just started its slow Gaza ground invasion. Bum IDF just barely stepped into the Urban zone earlier this week, yet they’ve been bombing civilians for the past month.

        Obviously I don’t expect them to actually care about civilians or even the hostages, but I really wish they’d stop acting like they can’t actually engage in a proper ground battle.

        Although with the tank kills Hamas has somehow been achieving, maybe the IDF really does suck at ground battles.

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        What does the civilian:soldier death ratio need to be in order for it to be considered a ‘legitimate military target’?

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          Honestly? As terrible as it sounds, it can be almost arbitrarily high if you look at the Geneva convention.

          For example, a hospital can be targeted after nothing more than a warning if the hospital isn’t used for humanitarian purposes only. There is no minimum duration specified between the warning and the attack.

          Not that the Geneva conventions are a guide for morality. They solely limit the maximum of cruelty during war.