This is as good as saying that in 1940, you don’t support either the British or the Nazis because they’re both right wing bourgeois governments fighting one another anyway.
If you’re talking about Ukraine, no way they become the next Nazi Germany. This war has wrecked their productive capacity too much, which wasn’t great to begin with. At worst, they’ll be a poorer Poland.
If you’re talking about US/NATO military hegemony, hate to break it to you but that ship has already sailed. It doesn’t have the ability to unilaterally impose its will like it once did, but it’s still a massive force; there’s a reason Russia engaged in a proxy war instead of directly attacking a NATO member.
Similarly, a NATO/Ukraine fascist victory over Russia today would spell doom for left wing anti-imperialist projects across the world. The US taking over of Russia’s vast resources and military hardwares would destroy any capacity of the Global South to assert their economic independence from the West, and to wage armed struggles against the Western imperialists.
What you’re describing doesn’t sound like a peace deal, that sounds like NATO victory and then some; the West prefers a proxy war as well to actually invading Russia. What I’m talking about would be something along the lines of semi-autonomous status for the separatist regions, a hardline “no NATO membership for Ukraine,” Russia keeps Crimea, but Ukraine doesn’t demilitarize. And for what it’s worth, I think China’s global position is going to come out stronger from all this regardless of outcomes.
This is why reading theory is so important for every communist.
If you’re going to appeal to theory, then cite the relevant theory.
I am talking, of course, about US imperialism, and which it will continue to arm and support fascist paramilitary to brutally slaughter leftists across the world, as it has done so many times over the past century. The only way to end this is to end US imperialism.
What you’re describing doesn’t sound like a peace deal, that sounds like NATO victory and then some
This war doesn’t end until either NATO is demilitarized, or Russia is demilitarized. There is no off-ramp from here, a ceasefire will only come when either of the two conditions occur, as trust is already permanently broken:
First, the US refusing Ukraine to negotiate for a ceasefire back in March 2022 made it very clear that they have no intention of suing for peace. There is a reason why Russia transitioned into an attrition war in May 2022 (what they call “Phase 2”), and it is precisely because they have correctly read the responses from the other side. If Russia loses, that means it has economically collapsed, and the chaos as a failed state that ensued.
Second, the Minsk agreements were the ceasefire period, during which Ukraine was re-armed and trained by NATO, and its military is being used against Russia today. This is why there is no longer a solution where the situation goes back to status quo. NATO will just continue to re-arm Ukraine, or worse, give them nuclear weapons as was in Zelensky’s provocative statement in January 2022 anyway. The only way for this to end is the demilitarization of NATO, or if Russia collapses.
If you’re going to appeal to theory, then cite the relevant theory.
If you’re talking about Ukraine, no way they become the next Nazi Germany. This war has wrecked their productive capacity too much, which wasn’t great to begin with. At worst, they’ll be a poorer Poland.
If you’re talking about US/NATO military hegemony, hate to break it to you but that ship has already sailed. It doesn’t have the ability to unilaterally impose its will like it once did, but it’s still a massive force; there’s a reason Russia engaged in a proxy war instead of directly attacking a NATO member.
What you’re describing doesn’t sound like a peace deal, that sounds like NATO victory and then some; the West prefers a proxy war as well to actually invading Russia. What I’m talking about would be something along the lines of semi-autonomous status for the separatist regions, a hardline “no NATO membership for Ukraine,” Russia keeps Crimea, but Ukraine doesn’t demilitarize. And for what it’s worth, I think China’s global position is going to come out stronger from all this regardless of outcomes.
If you’re going to appeal to theory, then cite the relevant theory.
I am talking, of course, about US imperialism, and which it will continue to arm and support fascist paramilitary to brutally slaughter leftists across the world, as it has done so many times over the past century. The only way to end this is to end US imperialism.
This war doesn’t end until either NATO is demilitarized, or Russia is demilitarized. There is no off-ramp from here, a ceasefire will only come when either of the two conditions occur, as trust is already permanently broken:
First, the US refusing Ukraine to negotiate for a ceasefire back in March 2022 made it very clear that they have no intention of suing for peace. There is a reason why Russia transitioned into an attrition war in May 2022 (what they call “Phase 2”), and it is precisely because they have correctly read the responses from the other side. If Russia loses, that means it has economically collapsed, and the chaos as a failed state that ensued.
Second, the Minsk agreements were the ceasefire period, during which Ukraine was re-armed and trained by NATO, and its military is being used against Russia today. This is why there is no longer a solution where the situation goes back to status quo. NATO will just continue to re-arm Ukraine, or worse, give them nuclear weapons as was in Zelensky’s provocative statement in January 2022 anyway. The only way for this to end is the demilitarization of NATO, or if Russia collapses.
I’d start with Lenin’s The Proletariat and the War.