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We are witnessing a genocide in real time.
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You really think 1.1 million can feasibly leave a city three times as dense as LA in the middle of complete electrical loss, food and water shortages? In 24 hours?
You know how many are about to die just getting out? How many will die because they couldn’t get out in time?
Tens of thousands. The ones who do make it out will be homeless and destitute. More dead. Food and water situation in the south is going to be abysmal. More dead.
And I would be utterly unsurprised if the city is never returned.
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You’re defending terrorists that shoot and burn babies.
israel has been doing that for years.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54823660
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/10/collective-punishment-israel-demolishes-palestinian-homes
https://www.aljazeera.com/videos/2020/8/11/israel-begins-bulldozing-villagers-homes-in-west-bank
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-ramps-up-demolition-of-palestinian-homes-in-jerusalem
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/15/israel-gaza-west-bank-rockets-jerusalem-warplanes
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65812442
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/12/middleeast/boy-killed-israeli-forces-jenin-intl/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/12/middleeast/palestinian-girl-killed-idf-raid-intl/index.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/10/gaza-mourns-the-children-killed-in-israels-latest-assault
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You’re a fucking idiot. Do you know anything about the history of the region? I do not condone the killing of civilians, but the people of Gaza are in effectively an open air concentration camp. If you back an animal into a corner, you shouldn’t be surprised when it bites you.
The violence of the oppressed can not be compared to the violence of the oppressor. If you punch me in the face unprovoked, that’s entirely different from me punching you back in self defense.
The people of Israel are settlers who, by and large, have not lived their whole lives there. Benjamin netanyau grew up in Philadelphia for fuck’s sake. Those people largely chose to bring their children into a war zone. They could just as easily have left. The Palestinians who’s land is being actively stolen from them have no where else to go!
The Israeli government has the choice to end this conflict. They could grant Palestinians equal rights, end settlement in the West Bank, provide Palestinians a right of return, and formulate a long-standing peace plan tomorrow.
They choose to not make progress towards any of those things though. They choose to continue treating Palestinians like cattle to be caged and slaughtered. As far as I’m concerned, any fresh perpetrated by Hamas is a direct result of Israeli policy.
Eat shit. You’re a genocide denier, plain and simple.
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Leave it to the guy who said all Palestinians are terrorists to also not know what “literally” means.
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Fuck off with your false dichotomy bullshit.
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Any settler with citizenship elsewhere should leave, stolen land given back to Palestinians, massive reparations paid, and the current Israeli government dissolved and replaced with a single Palestine government fairly representing all.
Barring that, at least stop genociding Palestinians, that would be a decent start.
It’s not like they’re attacking Israel for no reason - they’ve had their home stolen, their people slaughtered, and what’s left of them concentrated into a small, extremely dense outdoor prison. Their violence is only a reflection of Israeli violence.
That’s what could be done.
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I saw a post that made something very clear to me:
The size and population of Gaza is comparable to Montreal or Philadelphia. The actual cities, not their metro areas.
Well, about 15% more people because this was a rough approximation.
Imagine telling the entire city of Philly “I’m going to need you all to scootch to the south end so I can airstrike and invade the North half.”
Imagine Montreal, but walled in. With no power or water.
I have no idea what Israel should do about Hamas’ atrocities, but damn.
The only solution to the “atrocities” has always been: to end apartheid, stop genocide, and give the Palestinians back their land. One state, secular, for all peoples and religions. One Palestine.
Before European Zionism and Britain, Jewish people, Muslims and Christians lived in the region in peace. Palestinians are also the direct descendants of the Jews and other Canaanite peoples that lived there, since before the Romans. They just changed their religion with time, like it happens all over the world.
An ethnostate based on settler colonialism and genocide can’t be accepted.
And something like 3 times more dense than LA
Putting aside the insane logistical effort required, is Hamas just going to conveniently stay in the north to get bombed?
I think it’s about leaving their resources behind, like weapons, plans, and bombs. The tunnels are already collapsed due to the deep bombing, so if hamas wants to move anything, it will have to be done so in plain sight.
Yes.
Hamas, which controls the strip, told residents to stay put, and vowed to fight to the last drop of blood. By Friday afternoon there was no sign of any mass exodus as Israel prepared its onslaught.
Israel tells the world it intends to commit genocide world gives thumbs up.
They also told them to escape to Egypt and then proceeded to drop bombs at the gates.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
JERUSALEM/GAZA/TEL AVIV, Oct 13 (Reuters) - Israel’s military chief said “Now is the time for war” as his country amassed tanks near the Gaza Strip ahead of a planned ground invasion to annihilate the Palestinian militant Hamas group that rules the enclave and was behind deadly weekend attacks.
On Friday he was due to meet Jordan’s King Abdullah and Mahmoud Abbas, head of the Palestinian Authority in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, as part of a Middle East tour aimed at stopping spillover from the war.
America’s top diplomat, Blinken planned to visit key U.S. allies Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates - some with influence on Hamas, an Islamist group backed by Iran.
Israel’s parliament approved Netanyahu’s emergency unity government late on Thursday, including a number of centrist opposition lawmakers, to display the country’s united determination to fight Hamas.
Japan has arranged for a charter flight to depart Tel Aviv on Saturday for its citizens wishing to leave Israel, Chief Cabinet Secretary Hirokazu Matsuno told reporters on Friday.
Gazans, mainly descendants of refugees who fled or were expelled from homes in Israel at its founding in 1948, have suffered economic collapse and repeated Israeli bombardment under a blockade since Hamas seized power there 16 years ago.
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