Actually Palestinians started the violence. They fought a war, they lost.
That doesn’t excuse anything Israel has done, but credit where credit is due. Hamas are not freedom fighters, that isn’t their goal. Their goal is to eradicate anyone that doesn’t share their beliefs.
Freedom for the people of Palestine and peace in the region, but the likes of Hamas and Netanyahu can suck a bag of each others’ virgin dicks.
You seem to be rather angry and irrational. Which seemed obvious, when you replied to my post. But I’ll happily explain why:
Your childish narrative of good and bad just doesn’t apply in real life. Israel ist not all good and bad and “Israel” also consists of people committing crimes against Palestinians and people who just live their lives and were born there.
Your argument that I am a “shill” because I don’t paint the world in black and white and don’t condone Hamas’ war crimes as heroic because “the other side (whoever that may be) started it” is amusing, to say the least.
If Hamas had gone for military targets or at least governmental buildings it would have been a whole different story. But them slaughtering and abusing civilians is the same as Israel’s genocide against innocent Palestinians.
It’s very sad that people like you fail to see even basic distinctions like this and simply are just able to be for one side without having the ability to distinguish more than that is rather sad.
An example that even someone like you could understand the situation better:
Imagine you are living in a country whose government mistreats, abuses and kills a minority.
That minority decides to take revenge and randomly kill your family and your friends because your government and the police decide to be criminals.
Following your own argument you would cheer them on because they have the right to do so to fight back. Ridiculous.
Over half of Palestinians are under 14 and most of them have never seen an Israeli in real life. Abused and mistreated does not begin to cover it. You’re the one whose naively trying to moralize this. When you treat people like animals they behave like animals and “mistreatment” to this degree creates very dangerous animals. Whether the individuals concerned deserved it is immaterial, this is the consequences of their governments actions of which they were entirely complicit.
Oh. You misunderstand. I’m not trying to moralize anything. As a matter of fact it’s you guys who try to justify crimes of war and crimes against civilians as justified.
I’m one hundred percent in agreement that what Israel as a country does against the Palestinians is horrible and should be stopped. Even though the general sentiment in my country is pro Israel. Especially in the older generations.
However, my point is that the Hamas’ reaction is wrong and a war crime. I did not say I didn’t understand why they could be doing it. However, just because someone else is horrible doesn’t mean you have the right to do the same.
As I said in another comment: Hamas attacking government, military or police buildings would have been a whole different story and I would have considered that a justified reaction.
Ok Netanyahu shill. Who started it? Israel. Israel can stop this at any time by simply stopping their genocide.
But I guess you’re opposed to resistance. You’d fit right in in 1938 with your appeasement rhetoric.
Actually Palestinians started the violence. They fought a war, they lost.
That doesn’t excuse anything Israel has done, but credit where credit is due. Hamas are not freedom fighters, that isn’t their goal. Their goal is to eradicate anyone that doesn’t share their beliefs.
Freedom for the people of Palestine and peace in the region, but the likes of Hamas and Netanyahu can suck a bag of each others’ virgin dicks.
Go fuck yourself, you disgusting piece of shit.
Lmao intelligent and productive discourse as always, I bet you feel proud of yourself.
get fucked nazi scum
Can you actually come up with an original insult, or did you sacrifice your last braincell in the hope that things might play out the way you want?
Asking Redditors like you to stop being bloodthirsty, genocidal freaks was clearly a bridge too far
You seem to be rather angry and irrational. Which seemed obvious, when you replied to my post. But I’ll happily explain why:
Your childish narrative of good and bad just doesn’t apply in real life. Israel ist not all good and bad and “Israel” also consists of people committing crimes against Palestinians and people who just live their lives and were born there.
Your argument that I am a “shill” because I don’t paint the world in black and white and don’t condone Hamas’ war crimes as heroic because “the other side (whoever that may be) started it” is amusing, to say the least.
If Hamas had gone for military targets or at least governmental buildings it would have been a whole different story. But them slaughtering and abusing civilians is the same as Israel’s genocide against innocent Palestinians.
It’s very sad that people like you fail to see even basic distinctions like this and simply are just able to be for one side without having the ability to distinguish more than that is rather sad.
An example that even someone like you could understand the situation better: Imagine you are living in a country whose government mistreats, abuses and kills a minority. That minority decides to take revenge and randomly kill your family and your friends because your government and the police decide to be criminals. Following your own argument you would cheer them on because they have the right to do so to fight back. Ridiculous.
Over half of Palestinians are under 14 and most of them have never seen an Israeli in real life. Abused and mistreated does not begin to cover it. You’re the one whose naively trying to moralize this. When you treat people like animals they behave like animals and “mistreatment” to this degree creates very dangerous animals. Whether the individuals concerned deserved it is immaterial, this is the consequences of their governments actions of which they were entirely complicit.
Oh. You misunderstand. I’m not trying to moralize anything. As a matter of fact it’s you guys who try to justify crimes of war and crimes against civilians as justified. I’m one hundred percent in agreement that what Israel as a country does against the Palestinians is horrible and should be stopped. Even though the general sentiment in my country is pro Israel. Especially in the older generations.
However, my point is that the Hamas’ reaction is wrong and a war crime. I did not say I didn’t understand why they could be doing it. However, just because someone else is horrible doesn’t mean you have the right to do the same. As I said in another comment: Hamas attacking government, military or police buildings would have been a whole different story and I would have considered that a justified reaction.
Actively partaking in a genocide is actually the exact same thing as just happening to live somewhere. I am very smart.
If you really think about it, Nazi Germany wasn’t so black and white. The narrative that they were “bad” is quite childish.
Shut the fuck up.
I see you lack the rethoric ability to actually discuss something. A pity. Have a nice day.
why are you talking like an anime villain you fucking nerd
Is it threatening to you if someone uses words you haven’t learned yet? And uses arguments?