[] - originally from r/GenZhou
A communist friend of mine recently told me that in china the CPC and government don’t have that much power, and that the ruling class is basically the capitalists. He concludes that he thinks the most likely path china is on is ‘technocratic social democracy’. He doesn’t rule out the possibility of them becoming “”“fully socialist”“” but he thinks the party and government really need to step up their game for this to ever happen. Thoughts on this? I really don’t know what to think, since my impression previously was that the party and govt. had a pretty tight hold on the country and economy.
Edit: I showed him this post and he said “I don’t give an ounce of a fuck about ppl on reddit. I have no time for a website dedicated to trying to suck one’s own cock.” LOL
[deleted] - originally from r/GenZhouYeah I agree. But I’d like to learn more regardless, and go through the critical process.
Though one criticism he has of their policies is that they’re not internationalist enough, he thinks that they need to have FP that promotes socialism worldwide. I think his dad is a trot though lmao
u/Kulunja - originally from r/GenZhouGiven the condition of the world that would be unwise. China has rigorously studied the USSR and its successes and mistakes and they realized that one of their mistakes was being too combative w the West when the West still largely controlled the world economy. You can’t efficiently fight back against a capitalist-imperialist system when you’re still a developing nation. Sadly you gotta play along, build yourself and others up, and when the time comes strike
u/Azirahael - originally from r/GenZhouThey ARE promoting socialism world wide.
Socialism is WINNING.
China proves it every day.
So does Vietnam, Cuba, Laos, Korea, Kerala, etc
All they have to do to win is stay alive.
Their policy on revolutions is based on what Mao learned.
And what USSR learned the hard way.
USSR helped revolutions across the river.
This meant that those revolutions were not naturally strong. They kicked off early, with soviet support.
Which meant that if support vanished, they failed.
China waits across the river to support ANYONE who makes it across.
Thus ensuring that those who make it, STAY made.
And we are seeing the tide turn right now.
This time, when the world goes red, there’s no stopping it.
u/FreePatArthur - originally from r/GenZhouGot me hype as hell right now
u/wunderwerks - originally from r/GenZhouYour friend sounds like a Trot who doesn’t know what they are talking about.
u/dornish1919 - originally from r/GenZhouWhile I liked what the USSR did, it wasn’t perfect, as many countries weren’t ready for revolution due to geopolitical, cultural and historical differences. Afghanistan comes to mind, a large majority of the people who lived in the rural areas of the country were more conservative and wanted to maintain a theocracy, but those who lived in the cities were split between ML’s and Maoists. Of course, the USSR stepped reluctantly considering it a border dispute, and thus began a long campaign with mixed results. Hell, even after the Saur revolution, there was still a lot of infighting concerning how to move forward. Maoists wanted to develop the country first while MLs wanted to apply a more Soviet model. It was really a mess and I think an example of the Brezhnev Doctrine not working out the way it should have. PRC also did some nasty things during that time, too.