When was the last time the Dems got more left wing? Biden is the one pulling the shit in the meme and doomed American railroads by breaking that strike, Obama’s admin is the reason slave markets could open in Libya, Clinton ratified NAFTA and did all that stuff, this is not a conclusive list of any of their deeds.
How could you possibly drag that party left? They have resisted turning left at every turn largely in spite of their base and they keep getting elected. I personally don’t think it could be done and the alternative is to either vote 3rd party or spoil your ballot when the time comes around.
I don’t think it’s about dragging that party to the left, but weakening then republican party enough that a third more left leaning party can realistically run without taking so many votes from Dems that the republican win elections.
The Dems and Republicans share most of their policy, the Republicans are usually just more open about how hostile they are to minorities. How would this supposedly left wing party peel off republican voters, not that many dems, but also not be openly bigoted? There are too many contradictions there I can’t see your logic
Shut the fuck up you ignorant shitlib, Biden’s administration’s been racing to out-fascist the damn Republicans already, like building Trump’s wall and racing us towards nuclear hell
hexbear is explicitly communist. Elizabeth Warren is “capitalist to [her] bones” and Sanders bent the knee to the party machine and can’t even manage to be on the right side of geopolitics.
No, we are explicitly non-sectarian leftists who have a penchant for ultra- and Trot-bashing (though PSL does do good things here and there edit:but aren’t trot?). So I misspoke on that one, even though I’m not the person you were talking to.
Little late but yeah PSL isn’t a Trot party. I think the misconception is due to them splitting from Workers World Party which started out as Trotskyist.
What’s it like being so politically and socially illiterate that you think that anybody would spend the effort to put bots on a tiny communist internet forum? Literally just think about how fucking dumb what you just said is.
The Dems are equally as fascist as the Republicans Obama built more border wall and deported more immigrants than Trump. The only place that maybe, MAYBE, you will get some actually progressive (gag) policy is in certain democratic states and cities, but it is incredibly telling that Democrats adopted Republican healthcare reforms (which fucking suck and had improved thing very little) after running on universal healthcare and having the majorities to implement it. Keep kicking the football Charlie, I’m sure you’ll get it this time.
Or maybe Democrats deserve some criticism from the real left for once if they’re going to pretend to be left.
I would rather ask why you care about an election thirteen months away which should just take a couple minutes rather than doing literally anything beyond that. If you can’t, that’s fine, but don’t act like just voting is going to stop the US from declining into fascism, which feels increasingly more inevitable if it isn’t already there.
The USA is already fascist. I could list out all the technical reasons why, but what else do you call a country that sends weapons and money to actual, real life, militant Nazis?
When was the last time the Dems got more left wing? Biden is the one pulling the shit in the meme and doomed American railroads by breaking that strike, Obama’s admin is the reason slave markets could open in Libya, Clinton ratified NAFTA and did all that
stuff, this is not a conclusive list of any of their deeds.
How could you possibly drag that party left? They have resisted turning left at every turn largely in spite of their base and they keep getting elected. I personally don’t think it could be done and the alternative is to either vote 3rd party or spoil your ballot when the time comes around.
I don’t think it’s about dragging that party to the left, but weakening then republican party enough that a third more left leaning party can realistically run without taking so many votes from Dems that the republican win elections.
A weak republican party is against the interests of the democratic party, they literally say it themselves
The Dems and Republicans share most of their policy, the Republicans are usually just more open about how hostile they are to minorities. How would this supposedly left wing party peel off republican voters, not that many dems, but also not be openly bigoted? There are too many contradictions there I can’t see your logic
Hoo boy. Another propaganda bot looking to chill the Dem vote and ease the way for the Republican fascists.
Shut the fuck up you ignorant shitlib, Biden’s administration’s been racing to out-fascist the damn Republicans already, like building Trump’s wall and racing us towards nuclear hell
Another lemmy lemming jumping off a cliff and chastising everyone smart enough not to follow
Are the bots with you in the room right now?
We’re not bots we’re paid shills smh my head get it right
Wait the rest of you are getting paid?
Speak for yourself
hell yeah dude
Nah, we’re just devout followers of
hexbear is explicitly communist. Elizabeth Warren is “capitalist to [her] bones” and Sanders bent the knee to the party machine and can’t even manage to be on the right side of geopolitics.
what do you fucking expect from us?
Wait, has Hexbear actually explicitly stated itself as a communist instance?
No, we are explicitly non-sectarian leftists who have a penchant for ultra- and Trot-bashing (though PSL does do good things here and there edit:but aren’t trot?). So I misspoke on that one, even though I’m not the person you were talking to.
i used and meant small-c
we all want the classless moneyless society etc etc, the disagreements are on how to get there from here
Little late but yeah PSL isn’t a Trot party. I think the misconception is due to them splitting from Workers World Party which started out as Trotskyist.
small-c
What’s it like being so politically and socially illiterate that you think that anybody would spend the effort to put bots on a tiny communist internet forum? Literally just think about how fucking dumb what you just said is.
The Dems are equally as fascist as the Republicans Obama built more border wall and deported more immigrants than Trump. The only place that maybe, MAYBE, you will get some actually progressive (gag) policy is in certain democratic states and cities, but it is incredibly telling that Democrats adopted Republican healthcare reforms (which fucking suck and had improved thing very little) after running on universal healthcare and having the majorities to implement it. Keep kicking the football Charlie, I’m sure you’ll get it this time.
Hey, that’s not true!
Since I’m also a bot and not from Hexbear, I’ll just have to resort to mentioning @WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR@hexbear.net since I can’t trigger it :(
I got your back… Whataboutism
Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?
Thanks for triggering lol. Sadly, the bot’s response will probably only be findable on Hexbear since you deleted the parent comment.
Ah dang. I only meant to edit it. Must have been a bit on the stoned side
You can always undelete the comment
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Or maybe Democrats deserve some criticism from the real left for once if they’re going to pretend to be left.
I would rather ask why you care about an election thirteen months away which should just take a couple minutes rather than doing literally anything beyond that. If you can’t, that’s fine, but don’t act like just voting is going to stop the US from declining into fascism, which feels increasingly more inevitable if it isn’t already there.
I am a propaganda posting robot and I am hiding in your walls
The USA is already fascist. I could list out all the technical reasons why, but what else do you call a country that sends weapons and money to actual, real life, militant Nazis?