u/RedStarCap - originally from r/GenZhou
The title is my question. Although I am not very sceptical of news coming from the news sources I mentioned, like CGTN, I still think it would be important for me to have pretty strong reasons for convincing my liberal friends to read articles by CGTN to debunk a few myths they have on China.
u/DorotTagati - originally from r/GenZhou
I mean, essentially nothing? Just don’t blindly trust newspapers, see throught their sources, and if they are shit or non-existant trust should decrease, but don’t trhow them into the bin either, just start reading them with different lens.u/darkcalling - originally from r/GenZhou
Do they have a proven track record of lying, not only small lies but very big ones? Do they have a proven track record of doing that in service to imperialist aims? In service of aims to crush the workers? Do they have connections to and do they clear stories with and provide cover for along with outright printing propaganda from some of the most evil organizations on earth such as the CIA which have long laundry lists of crimes against humanity?Are they owned by capitalists who have capitalist aims from nations known for starting wars under false pretenses and with lies? Iraq, Vietnam, “remember the maine”, etc. Do they ever learn from such lies and being apparently (if we take them at their word that they’re independent and well intentioned) used by these imperialists to spread propaganda? Are they critical of known liars in intelligence agencies or do they time and time again breathlessly print whatever they whisper to them while allowing their sources to remain on deep background to spread whatever info they’d like with no accountability?
The answer in regards to Chinese state media is no on all of the above. The the answer in regards to RFE, BBC, NYT, WaPo, etc is yes, yes, yes with decades of this behavior.
You have to decide, do you prefer the biases of these criminals, these monsters and their propaganda rags or the biases of a state whose modern foreign policy is good neighborliness, no wars, no war crimes, which is very restrained and measured in responding to aggressive intentions. Who don’t resort to bombastic attacks but to appeals to decency and shared values and interests.
u/Tankpiggy - originally from r/GenZhou
CCTV and CGTN represent China, which represents the workers and majority of people (mostly). RFE and BBC support the narratives of the US and UK, which are run by capitalists.[deleted] - originally from r/GenZhou
[deleted]u/Tankpiggy - originally from r/GenZhou
I guess you cannot. You just have to look at how correct they have been in the past, and how often they tell the truth[deleted] - originally from r/GenZhou
[deleted]u/california_sugar - originally from r/GenZhou
There’s nothing to convince you of. All news has a bias. And that truth doesn’t always lie directly in the middle. So you either choose a source you can trust or not, but no one here is going to tell you something from a definitive and absolute source of truth.u/AngryTeaDrinker - originally from r/GenZhou
Generally you want credible news, not the news company / paper etc. Read the news carefully, fact check their sources, and be skeptical if there isn’t any solid sources. Does news articles just circlejerk and cite BBC, which cites Daily Mail, and so on? Or do articles refer directly to the primary source? These are basic literature search that, although taught in school, but greatly undermined when it comes to information gathering.It makes no sense to apply faith onto any agencies, instead we should effectively filter / analyze the information that we base our judgments and rational thinking on.
u/Bad_Bitch_Vampire - originally from r/GenZhou
Is CGTN owned (alongside other Chinese networks) by a few billionaires? That would be one major differentiating factor.u/Boris-Get-the-Tank - originally from r/GenZhou
True.Sadly, same argument can be made for the BBC.
u/Coventide - originally from r/GenZhou
The BBC is run by the British government which is in it of itself run by a few billionaires 🤷♂️u/Boris-Get-the-Tank - originally from r/GenZhou
And if you go that far, they will say the same about china, and dare you to prove otherwise.u/Coventide - originally from r/GenZhou
The ruling party in China has over 90 million members, said party also has over 80% approval rating. Anyone who argues China is being controlled by a few billionaires is delusional or straight up denying reality.u/Boris-Get-the-Tank - originally from r/GenZhou
95.5%And they are set to pass 100M in a few years, as they have at least 10 million youth league soon to graduate.
u/emisneko - originally from r/GenZhou
you need to use critical thinking with any source, but they have a much better track record than US media. look at Spanish-American War, Gulf of Tonkin lie, Iraqi WMDs, Nayirah testimony, or all the outlets that push Adrian Zenz even today. to my knowledge China has not used its media to justify aggressive war (or even been at war, for forty-plus years since the tragic aftermath of the sino-soviet split).good article on the topic of brainwashing and media hegemony: https://redsails.org/brainwashing/
u/throaway150098 - originally from r/GenZhou
All news media is biased. Politics is a hard game, and one where you need heavy knowledge and resources to know the full truth. Public opinion might not be right, “public/majority” opinion might not actualy be majority. Censorship, monopolies and other factors influence this.u/MidnightRider00 - originally from r/GenZhou
Watch what both say about the same thing and learn to dissociate facts from a editorialized opinion.u/Boris-Get-the-Tank - originally from r/GenZhou
The only difference is: track record.As other comrades have pointed out, one side has a constant record of lying.
China does not.
[deleted] - originally from r/GenZhou
Get over this “trusting” bullshit, just read both sides and form your own goddam opinion, it’s called being dialectical and has been around for centuries.u/931451545 - originally from r/GenZhou
Always look through the lens of skeptism. But then again, CCTV has a better record of not lying than BBC.u/jamie2234 - originally from r/GenZhou
their position in the world system. Outlets of an anti imperialist state function in opposition to imperialism. Outlets of imperialist states promote imperialist lies.