The Southern States of America have some of the most beautiful landscapes and climates this country has to offer. It also harbors some of the worst people and culture this country has to offer.

Having traveled all over the US, being to every state other than Hawaii and having lived in a total of seven, four of them being Southern States, I’ve had the chance to see what the country is like, it’s various cultures and the people that make up those cultures, and have a developed a strong opinion from my experiences.

That opinion: Fuck the South.

I vividly remember moving from a North Western state to a southern state as a child and experiencing the utter culture shock from the move.

In the NW, I was welcomed for who I was. In the South, I was not.

In the NW, I was able to be who I wanted to be. In the South, I had to be like them.

In the NW, you were judged by your character. In the south, you were judged by the cost and size of your material items.

This is not Red vs Blue States. This is the South vs the rest of the United States.

The utter amount of corruption in Southern governments from the Governors offices’ down to the local police departments is both appalling, but extremely apparent if you just stopped to actually take a look.

There’s a massive amount of suffering from those in poverty in Southern States because of the rugged individualism in the culture and the utter lack of empathy towards those they do not know. As long as they get theirs, that’s all they care about. In the Southern Culture, the mentality is not “we’re in this together”, it’s “not my problem if it doesn’t affect me”.

The South = “Me, Myself, and I” and always has been. Disagree? Then how else can you explain their history if not for their own selfish reasons?

Everyone’s main focus is themselves and their immediate family/friends. Everyone else just exists (barely) and if their existence is worse than the Southerners, then that’s their problem and the southerner will not lose any sleep over it.

The South’s education is abysmal.

During my time of puberty I was living in southern states.

I had no idea what sexual intercourse was or how it was performed until I was 14 because my health classes sex education was “abstinence only”.

I learned by watching pornography.

I didn’t know about the female reproductive system or how it worked until I was 16 when my girlfriend told me about it. When we talked about sexual intercourse and the reproductive systems of both men and women, we talked about solely about STDs and how losing your virginity causes you to lose a part of yourself (this was an actual lesson in the sixth grade, I shit you not. My teacher also talked about how pornography created Ted Bundy. Again, I shit you not).

It’s not at all surprising that teen pregnancies ravage southern states. How could it not? They purposely keep teenagers in the dark as a form of control. And if a teenager breaks out of that control and gets pregnant, then their punishment is to have the child and be a teenaged parent. But this isn’t surprising. The culture of the south has always been about controlling others. They literally betrayed and fought against the United States because of it. And even after they lost, they still could not accept losing control. The KKK was formed, Jim Crow laws established, and they repealed the rights of their fellow Americans. And this mentality still affects Southern Culture to this day with their weaponization of religion and identity politics. (Did you know the Department of Justice was created just to fight the KKK because they were such a big fucking problem?)

Southern culture is also a very cruel and hateful one. (I know! That seems ridiculous to think! But is it when compared to the rest of American Values?)

“What about Southern hospitality?” You may ask.

This is true. The South is known for being polite.

But being polite is not the same as being kind.

Politeness is the social norm of the south, but kindness is not.

Southerners only take kindness at face value. It’s not done out of the kindness of the heart, it is done out of egotism and the need to feel morally superior than those around them. Hence, they’re polite. Not kind.

In my experience, the southerner is the first to judge, but the last to take any criticism.

I could go on and on with little intricate criticisms like the priority of athletics over education (SEC is absolute proof of this), or how you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a picture of a village in a developing nation and small town in rural Mississippi, but I don’t want to be here writing all night.

Obviously the world is not black and white. I know not every southerner is a bad person. I know you can’t put everyone in a singular box as every person is different. But when it comes to defining the culture of the American South, it is an utter embarrassment of the United States and against what our forefathers wanted the country to represent. Freedom and Tolerance of others (Benjamin Franklin actively pushed for the tolerance of other religions in the US. Would the average Southerner do that?)

Our biggest mistake as a country was not completing the Reconstruction of the American South. It is because of this failure you still see confederate flags on the back of their trucks and monuments of traitors in the center of their towns. And now the democracy of the United States is at risk because of it.

Fuck. The. South.

    • Matthew@programming.dev
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      1 year ago

      They’re likely living in a Piedmont city (we’ve got a lot of transplants moving from up north) — Raleigh would be my guess. Believe it or not, this state has several diverse cities.

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      Yes.

      I grew up in the suburbs. The entire culture was extremely judgemental and harsh to people who didn’t conform to social standards. There was this mentality that if you weren’t of value in some way, you didn’t deserve decency.

      This continued beyond high school. My adult siblings live in NYC. My cousins also live in NYC, as well as several family friends. They are hyper judgemental when it comes to social conformity, and don’t seem to believe that people have any intrinsic value if they aren’t up to standard.

      In NC, that isn’t the case. There seems to be a lot more basic human decency. If someone doesn’t like me, they don’t treat me with utter contempt and disgust. They don’t (as far as I can tell) talk shit behind my back and try to shame people who do like me. Instead they are nice to me in person, and then just don’t hang out with me.

      There is also a lot lower a standard of conformity. My siblings will talk shit about absolutely petty shit like wearing the wrong outfit or not using an iPhone. They’ll go on rants that boil down to “this person was mildly socially awkward, or behaved in a way that made it clear they didn’t understand the extreme nuances of my social circle” and act like the person in question is an absolute idiot that deserves ridicule. Family friends have done similar things. Meanwhile in NC the bar is low enough that someone who means well and has a basic understanding of social cues can live function without any issues.

      I have Autism. I’ve managed to grow into a person that can function pretty well. I have friends. I have an SO. I have a good job. However, none of that would have happened if I stayed in the NYC metro. Even after all my growth, I would be torn apart in the culture there. The social expectations (and cruelty if you can’t manage it) are simply too high.

      There is more to oppression than skin tone. I’m never more aware of my Autism than when I’m in that environment.

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        1 year ago

        I grew up in the suburbs

        So, not NYC. To speak bluntly, like a New Yorker: Your family sounds like shit. I’m guessing they live on Long Island. That’s nothing like NYC, and only someone from Long Island would confuse the two.

        There are literally millions of people in NYC who will be nice to you, but not kind. That’s the difference. If you need help, they will stop what they’re doing and give you directions, call 911, whatever. If you’re playing your music too loud they will tell you to shut the fuck up.

        You are confusing the two. People in the South may be nice (polite) to you, but they are definitely talking about you behind your back. There’s nothing else to do in tiny shithole towns. You’re autistic, you probably just can’t tell they’re doing it.

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          1 year ago

          Man you confirm a stereotype.

          The post was about how the south sucks. I talked about how I currently live in the south, and how much better it is than the environment I grew up in. I specifically said NYC METRO AREA. This is because I don’t want to reveal my specific hometown.

          However, I know plenty of people living in NYC. My siblings live in NYC, my uncle lives in NYC, my cousins live in NYC, and whenever I go home a good half the people I meet are living in NYC.

          There’s another thing I didn’t mention about what I hated their: the pure unbridled arrogance.

          There’s this belief that NYC is the center of the universe and the best place to be. They constantly talk down any place outside of NYC. They’ll say shit implying anything outside the top three metro areas in the US is some cultural backwater. They’re straight up incapable of acknowledging the inherent toxicity of their environment. If they do acknowledge it, they’ll insist that every single place is just as bad and they’re just more honest about it. They’ll also act like it’s okay to be casual assholes all the time because they’re really great deep down.

          So just to go in order

          • You have never lived in the south. You don’t seem to know any southerners. You certainly do not know me. I have plenty of friends here. The kind of casual cruelty that flies in the NYC metro doesn’t fly here.
          • I live in a metro area of over two million people. That is not a small town. There’s more to America than NYC, LA, and Chicago.
          • People from the NYC metro were not kind to me. They were judgmental assholes. Extremely so. They did so freely and without any sort of concern.
          • That whole “oh they’re good people, they just are blunt and without basic human decency” schtick isn’t nearly as cute as you think it is. It’s extremely toxic.
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            1 year ago

            You’re right that people from NYC are arrogant about their city, same as Paris. How do you know someone’s from New York? In 10 minutes they’ll say, “Back in NYC… blah blah blah bagels, pizza, baconeggncheese”.

            You are swimming in a sea of comments from people who grew up in and live in the South currently. It clearly sucks. If it was great people would vacation there, but they don’t.

            Your family sound like assholes. That has nothing to do with the literal tens of millions of people in the NYC Metro Area. If they’re from Long Island, that’s the real problem.

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              1 year ago

              If it was great people would vacation there, but they don’t.

              Casual reminder no one has EVER vacationed in Florida.