Deborah Matias, an American citizen who lived in Israel, was shot and killed by Hamas gunmen while shielding her teenage son from their bullets, her father told CNN.

Hayim Katsman, an Israeli-American academic, had been hiding in a closet with his neighbor when he was fatally shot, his sibling said.

They are among at least 11 US citizens who were killed in Israel after the Gaza-based militant group launched a devastating attack early Saturday that has left at least 900 people there dead.

    • at_an_angle@lemmy.one
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      9 months ago

      I love the part of the argument where you addressed “no one should be killed merely for living somewhere.”

      It totally brought me to your side.

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      9 months ago

      I haven’t lapped up any propaganda. Israel should indeed stop killing innocents. Both sides need to stop killing, but they both keep doing it.

      Parts of Israel have been Jewish for longer than most human beings have been alive.

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          9 months ago

          It’s not hyperbole to say that in most peoples’ living memory parts of Israel have always been Jewish.

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            9 months ago

            Considering the movement started in the late 1800s with Jews buying land and expanded as pogroms and genocides happened to Jews, it’s completely accurate. Nobody alive was born before Jews started moving back to Palestine.

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              9 months ago

              Exactly. The point being, many Israelis were born there, over multiple generations, as such they do have some valid claim to being there regardless of whatever should be done with Israel as a state.

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          9 months ago

          Can you point me to the period where Palestine was ever an independent country? The land has been either controlled by an empire or under Jewish control.

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            9 months ago

            Wtf are you on about? I was pointing out using his hyperbole hurt his argument. I was trying to give constructive criticism, not argue…