u/nottomat - originally from r/GenZhou
“What about in Hong Kong where they made it so that the leaders are no longer publicly elected? What about Tiannenmen Square were hundreds of people were killed for protesting the Dengist regime? What about how China’s internet is blocked by a firewall meaning you cannot search for various things the government doesn’t want you to search for? What about how journalists punish foreign journalists by removing their press credentials when they say something critical of the government’s policies? What about when in 2019 the All China Journalists Association updated its code of ethics saying that they have to take an exam proving that they are guided by Xi Jinping thought”
How would you counter these statements?
u/joephusweberr - originally from r/GenZhouMy gf had an epiphany the other day. She is Chinese, came to the states when she was 25. We were watching the news and she said, “We have freedoms in China, but in America you can openly criticize your president. We don’t do that in China, and you do it here”. She had long believed, as you do, that there is no difference between the freedoms in China and the freedoms in the US. Slowly, based on evidence, she is realizing that is not the case. Slowly, she is realizing that the reason they don’t criticize their leadership in China is because they don’t actually have the same freedoms we enjoy. It is important when you look at the world, to look at it as it is, not as you wish it were.
u/pangurb - originally from r/GenZhouvery interesting. what does she think of cointelpro, fred hampton, or malcolm X? they certainly enjoyed their freedom of critique, hm?
u/joephusweberr - originally from r/GenZhouI swear to god it’s going to be 200 years from now and leftists will still be talking about the 1960s.
u/pangurb - originally from r/GenZhouyoud like something more recent, then look up the chicago black sites and the ferguson riot leaders. go on.
u/joephusweberr - originally from r/GenZhouHands up don’t shoot was a lie.
u/Azirahael - originally from r/GenZhouNotice how you did not actually answer the question?
That’s a clue right there.
And remember, you don’t have freedom of speech in the USA.
Say something they don’t like, and you are gone from twitter, YT, FB, etc.
You have the ‘freedom’ to scream into the void.
But as soon as you start making headway, you will suddenly be deplatformed.
u/Hortaleza - originally from r/GenZhouYou’re so right, Cointelpro definitely ended in the 60s and is no longer going on