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… The news came from Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney himself in a presentation at Unreal Fest 2023. …

… He claimed that the pricing model will not be “unusually expensive or unusually inexpensive,” and that its pricing structure will be similar to subscription services like Maya or Photoshop. …

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        It’s not. It’s miserable to actually use. It’s miserable to manage in a production setting. It’s just not acceptable unless you’re working for yourself.

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          I’d recommend Photopea for casual use that’s not miserable to use. It’s in browser only and is basically a photoshop clone with slightly less features, but it’s amazingly close to Photoshop when I need it to be, even with things like using a pen or a really specific option menu.

          It does generate it’s revenue via banner ads but I’ve never seen them with my adblock, if I’m needing to quickly whip something up and utilise my Photoshop familiarity, it’s my go to.

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            I use Photopea too for basic editing, but it certainly wouldn’t be good in a professional environment.

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          “oh no I have to learn something new 😭😭😭😭”

          It’s easy, real easy in a production setting. Different is not hard.

          Publishing to other formats and opening more formats are an absolute strength!

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            Gimp was competition for Photoshop some 25 years ago. Photoshop has improved a lot since those days, Gimp hasn’t. Gimp isn’t even the best graphics app in the Free Software space anymore.

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              I have used gimp over the past about 15 years, photoshop & Corel suite past 10 & 4 years ago as well. Gimp is not photoshop anyone who has used it, understands that it’s a different product and frankly it does not matter. It’s very capable where it matters and the net result is it costs nothing. No rent charging for nice but not necessary features for myself.

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            Yeah…no. It’s objectively worse in many ways. Student on a budget? Hobbyist? Gimp will get the job done…but then again so will Pixlr 99% of the time. It’s gotta get a whole lot better before production houses seriously consider switching.

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              I’d also like to add Photopea to the list. Gimp has plenty of competition that have pulled themselves up in a shorter amount of time.

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        I would rather stab myself in the eyeballs than use GIMP. It’s never the way and never will be.

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      I mean I hate Adobe as much as the next guy but photoshop is like $10/month

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        Affinity Photo is $60 once and you own it forever, with free updates. It’s pretty much the only actually good Photoshop replacement.

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        It’s $21 USD from what I can see. That’s only photoshop. Help the poor souls who need more than that.

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            Oh, bundles. This is just cable TV/phone plans in another form.

            Edit: Don’t downvote who I responded to. They are correct. Not their fault Adobe is crap.

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              Eh, would you prefer that to be US$20 each instead? Why are you ideologically opposed to something when there are benefits?

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                I’d rather not pay a subscription in the first place.

                I’ll never be a fan of sub bundles that it’s obvious that it’s all about maximum profit for the company. Why is the only bundle PS and LR? (Besides the 3d modeling crap.) Or using everything in the cloud. Why is there no “your choice bundle”? What if I just need Premiere and Acrobat? Or any other combination for that matter.

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                  Because it’s aimed at photographers who raised a huge stink in the first place (I was one of them).

                  You don’t have to use it in the cloud too, all my camera photos are sitting in my drives, none of them have been uploaded to Adobe’s servers.

                  PS and LR at this price is cheaper than the perpetual licenses if I upgraded every other cycle, so it’s been cheaper for me. Of course there’s still cheaper alternatives for PS now (Affinity Photo is really good), but since I still use LR a lot and the cost is bearable, I stay on it.

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          Yeh, I use 4 applications from Adobe in very limited amounts. I wish they did a pay as you use subscription! If you use them all every day it’s cheap, but I maybe use them about 10-15 hours per month at the most.

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            There aren’t alternatives to what you use? I couldn’t justify that personally.

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              Traditional I would be working on a freelance basis with companies and teams that would only use adobe, and wanted files in those formats. Though as I’m doing more and more of work just for myself the alternatives are getting more tempting.

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        Americans will talk of $10 a month like it’s chump change. It’s more expensive than my water bill.

        Now add every other tool that decides to take the same approach.

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          $10 is also more expensive than my water bill in the US*. I purposely have as few subscriptions as possible.

          *other utility bills are higher though, like sewer capacity, which is $17/mo.

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          If you’re using photoshop in a business or hobby capacity, $10/month is a fairly good deal.

          I personally use Affinity Photo but I’m not going to pretend that it has feature parity with photoshop.

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            Paying forever is not a better deal than paying the price of a few months of use and then having it for years. Maybe a business can justify that, but for a hobby? No way.

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              Maybe a business can justify that, but for a hobby? No way.

              Hobbyists CAN and DO get the $10/mo plan. It’s cheaper than most streaming services and if it’s a part of your workflow (as a hobby photographer, for example) then $10/month for a constantly updated software is a good deal.

              Like if you don’t value photoshop at $10/month that’s okay but A LOT of people do.

              Paying forever is not a better deal

              I just ran into the not forever issue when I had to re-buy Affinity photo to get the newest version.