Acquaintance was confidently talking about how Sweden is a socialist country. The sad thing is most Americans probably believe this, but dear god it is so over
Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. You have committed the first type of liberalism.
Keeping your job is the first type of liberalism
Literally signed car paperwork with Raytheon and Halliburton employees because medication and therapy are not free
One time when hitching a ride to my 10 year high school reunion (which I recommend against going to btw) we were talking about countries we had visited/traveled to. I had mentioned that I had been to Cuba recently, so we got to discussing Cuba a bit. The Christian lib that was driving said something to the tune of “Cuba experienced a huge economic boom when the evil Soviet Union finally collapsed.”.
It was so mind-numbingly historically illiterate I was gobsmacked. I didn’t even know where to begin. Like they actually euphemistically call the 1990’s the “special period” because of how absolutely devastating the collapse of the USSR was for them. I couldn’t even begin to understand how he arrived at that conclusion.
Yeahhh I just kept my mouth shut and sorta marveled at the ignorance of it all
The convo that came after was very interesting, but luckily we (I) centered the convo back around to the Roman Empire tik tok trend. Though I couldn’t point out how most of it stems from the west’s perception of conquest/manliness
Yeah its called “posting on Lemmy”
All the time, and a lot of the time it’s some topic that will make you a pariah for arguing against it, like “the Soviet Union killed gorillions” or whatever.
it doesn’t if you’re normal about politics. the issue that makes people a pariah is when you’re making your politics your entire personality or making edgelord jokes about killing rich people around people who aren’t into that humor. you can totally defend the USSR if you’ve done your research and aren’t just repeating communist memes at people. they might not agree with you but a lot of the time they’ll just walk away thinking you’re wrong and not that you should be shunned from society.
Pretty sure if I defended the USSR to most people I know, even if it was totally factual, they wouldn’t want to have anything to do with me anymore. Ebil Stalin wanted to rule us and all that.
I think human relationships are a lot more complicated than that, hence me bringing up how you’re coming off being as important as what you’re saying. it’s a pretty natural human reaction to hear people out when you actually care about them. i think there’s definite things you could do to make people think you’re a sicko but in most cases i’ve experienced, political discussions usually just end at an impasse where we both think the other is wrong but whatever.
but also, we shouldn’t discount how hard defending the USSR is in this situation bc you have to know what you’re talking about at a much higher level to come off persuasive as the person you’re arguing about is. that’s definitely a problem.
Something I have to do fairly regularly in social settings. I still try to sprinkle in some materialist analysis where I can though. Just state some facts that are not so controversial to the normie mind, but perhaps get a bit of cognitive dissonance rolling for them.
You can lead a lib to the truth of marxist analysis, but you can’t make them internalize it. Basically a soft-socratic method when in normie settings is my default strategy.
Can vouch for the soft-socratic method. Study the contradictions, lead people to point them out for themselves when possible. Launching into history lessons rarely will make anything stick, you need to get people to realize what they believe is contradictory first.
Only on days that end in ‘y’.
Poniedziałek… Wtorek… Środa… Czwartek… Piątek… Sobota… Niedziela…
Lucky bastard! I wish I could be you. Depending on the week it’s on ‘ek’ days or ‘a’ days. Sometimes both :sadness:
And Yet I Try
an autobiography
I see you’re also a member of my org
There are so many of those.
“Every idea should be entertained in the marketplace of ideas and only the best ideas will prevail!” is such smugly naive and idealistic bullshit yet so many people believe it. It’s like believing only the healthiest and most nutritious food gets purchased at the supermarket.
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