• bluGill@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    CPR does not save lives. It preserves a dead body until an AED or ambulance can bring it back to life. You need to remove her shirt and often bra (if there is a wire it must go, otherwise only if in the way) to use an AED so if some item of clothing is in the way don’t worry about removing it.

    Note that the above is generic CPR training that doesn’t respect local laws which can say something different.

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      10 months ago

      AED’s will not help someone whose heart is stopped (i.e. no pulse). They are used to shock the heart into restoring its normal rhythm. It will not start a heart that has stopped beating.

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        10 months ago

        Yeahhhh… and it makes me glad that the ‘A’ part in AED exists, because there are apparently a not insignificant number of people who have gotten their CPR training from TV.

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      10 months ago

      CPR absolutely does save lives. The success rate outside hospitals is around 10%. That’s thousands of lives saved every year.

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      10 months ago

      Please do not say CPR does not save lives, it 100% does. And in the United States our Good Samaritan laws protect anyone from liability if they are acting in good faith trying to help someone.

      I’m a paramedic in the United States, hold a certification as a flight medic, nothing I can bring, in a helicopter or an ambulance will do anything for anyone if high quality CPR isn’t performed.

      To break things down, yes in adults early defibrillation does make a huge difference but in kids it is literally high quality CPR that saves them. If you’d like I’d be happy to break down the details of resuscitation, but without CPR until I can get there and attempt resuscitation, then no matter how much I throw at someone to try to get their heart beating again, they’ll still be brain dead.

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        10 months ago

        My CPR instructors put it the way I wrote it to encourage us to spend more effort on getting the AED and paramedics there fast. If you do CPR before the AED/paramedics is on the way you are wasting time, but getting those has been started CPR is important. However this is clearly semantics, I think we are all in agreement that CPR is important.

        Not all states have “good Samaritan” laws. Most do, but if you live in the exception you might suffer harassment after doing CPR, including go to court - odds are the court will throw the case out, but it will still be annoying to do the right thing in those states. Though even lacking such laws, the odds that anything will happen are low.

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          Also not everyone lives in America. In more conservative places in Asia, touching a random woman (even if she is unconscious) and clearly in need of help is really asking to be judged.

          And if a video with accusatory narration is posted on tiktok or something, you’re basically done for. Especially in a small town or country. You’re basically doxxed and won’t be easily hired for work because background checks are easily done, and the company (basically the HR) isn’t going to risk the bad rep of hiring a potential molester, rapist, etc even if it’s just an accusation by random people.