A federal judge has struck down a California law banning gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. U.S.

California cannot ban gun owners from having detachable magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, a federal judge ruled Friday.

The decision from U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez won’t take effect immediately. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, a Democrat, has already filed a notice to appeal the ruling. The ban is likely to remain in effect while the case is still pending.

This is the second time Benitez has struck down California’s law banning certain types of magazines. The first time he struck it down — way back in 2017 — an appeals court ended up reversing his decision.

  • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    They may run, or they may return fire. Depends, are they there for your TV like you seemingly assume, or is it a methed up abusive ex here to “take back his kid no matter what gotdammit?” Those two situations are going to be wildly different. Hell, even if they’re here to steal your shit, they don’t always run especially when there’s multiple, you ever hear the phrase “prepare for the worst and hope for the best?” Even if it only happens at the same rate as mass shooting homicides, it’s still something one should be able to prepare for if they so choose.

    Gun policy also shouldn’t be based on ineffective feature bans under the pretext of mass shootings when mass shootings would be entirely unaffected. In fact one of the most well known, Columbine, the one all these fucks are copying, only used 10 rnd (or less) mags. It doesn’t effect them at all, the only people who might be effected are those using it for defense who may lack the time to reload becaudr “deadly threat,” so why do it then?

    • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
      1·
      9 months ago

      Most mass shootings as the law defines them aren’t like Columbine. They are gang members doing drive-bys or opening fire in crowds. Reducing the number of rounds in a gun absolutely improves on this problem. It has been proven again and again in states which have passed magazine restrictions. Deaths and injuries from such events drop significantly.

      For every abusive ex that uses a gun to save themselves or their child, there are multiples more who are injured or killed by their violent ex. The net gain is negative. We absolutely need stricter laws nationally to take away gun rights from violent partners, but gun rights people consistently fight against them.

      Gun policy also shouldn’t be based on ineffective feature bans

      I agree completely. The only feature that matters is the number of rounds a gun can fire. A gun can be fully automatic and it still won’t be significantly more dangerous than a revolver if it has the same number of rounds. The second it takes to reload might not seem like much until you are the one being shot at and it gives you a second to escape.

      • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        1·
        9 months ago

        I’ve seen no evidence of “It has been proven again and again in states which have passed magazine restrictions. Deaths and injuries from such events drop significantly.” Actually what I have seen is that the '94-'04 AWB (during which you had your way) wasn’t linked to any of that at all, in fact studies showed there was no meaningful impact on gun violence from the AWB. Not only that but the Columbine shooting took place during that, with banned weapons. Also, the VT shooter (which was the deadliest for a long time) used only 10rnd magazines and changed magazines a whopping 17 times. Same with the '91 Luby’s Diner shooting, mag changes were not an issue for any of these people, the law is ineffective at targeting its supposed targets favoring instead to target those who actually are using it in self defense (or, since you don’t agree with that since you say “if you need 11 rnds, that’s so rare you deserve to die,” the law targets nobody and is completely pointless.)

        For every abusive ex that uses a gun to save themselves or their child, there are multiples more who are injured or killed by their violent ex

        Not all family annhialators use firearms, listening to a podcast right now about a guy who had a fight with his wife, went out and grabbed a 2x4 and an ice pick, beat her to death with it, and then killed his two kids, the child with the wood and the baby with the Ice pick. Then he stabbed himself (barely) and tried to pass it off as related to the then-recent LaBianca murders. So, seemingly, guns aren’t necessary at all for that, however with the disparity in force between most couples it could be a real boon for the defender. Would a shot or two have been sufficient to make him flee? Maybe, fight or flight doesn’t work how you think it does, but he already knows his wife is going to report him for attempted murder if he doesn’t “win” this fight, so what does he have to lose? Assuming fight or flight did work how you think (it’s a reflex, but if we’re ignoring that and claiming they “will definitely run,”) I claim that knowing all is already lost will push them towards “fight” rather than “flight.”

        Btw “violent partners” as in “those convicted of domestic violence” are already barred from gun ownership by federal law. Yes, somehow Vermont has decided it doesn’t apply to them, but it’s still federally illegal, I guess it is like legal states and weed. Still though, already a law.

        The second it takes to reload might not seem like much until you are the one being shot at and it gives you a second to escape.

        Again, may I referrence the VT shooter’s 17 reloads, the Luby’s Shooter’s at least 3 reloads, etc. Maybe. Typically not though, I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding about how long it takes to slap in a new magazine, I’m gonna try to find you a video in which someone does it real fast…

        Ok I’m back. Best I could find was this instructional video (hope that time code worked, the part is at the end.) I was looking for one that wasn’t “worlds fastest reload zomg guys so cool” because I wanted one that was more “normal,” this about suffices, if the shooter practices (and you can practice reloads at home in your room) it takes about one of these videos and a week if you’re mentally deficient to learn how to do it as quick as he did in the video. That might allow someone to escape, all things are possible, but it’s not likely.