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Waaaaaaay better privacy, faster than chrome, don’t need to worry about them killing mandatory add ons so they can push ads, also the add ons just work better but maybe that’s confirmation bias.
I’m sure there’s more I’m forgetting
It is not really faster than Chrome, but hey, at least I don’t have to manually opt out of monetizing my browsing history and my adblocker still works.
i looked at the graph and it seems like the speed of firefox is way more stable. At the moment i think the normal speeds are equal. Chrome has sometimes very big spikes in booth directions (the grey dots on the right sides that seem to be out of order) so the fastes from the records is still chrome, on this one specific date
Firefox actually has surpassed Chrome recently in benchmarks
It is not really faster than Chrome
It is if I close my eyes and stick my fingers in my ears.
LOL
Sadly not everywhere. On mobile it lacks behind. Even more on video content and low power cpus.
Chromium is slightly better in a way where I could clic on the video buttons without lag : On my android TV, (sideloaded) Firefox had issues with video buttons. So I tried using kiwi browser (for the extension support), and it worked well for buttons. The video wasn’t a lot smoother, but it just seemed maybe just slightly better.
When you say video, do you mean YouTube and on other Google sites? Not sure if you knew this, but Google has proprietary shit on their websites that enables special features just for Chrome. Even if Firefox wanted to implement those features, Google wouldn’t let Firefox use them.
I can confirm that Firefox is terrible on Android.
Used Firefox android for at least a long arse time now. I can’t remember any issues. Other than one site, but that works perfectly in duckduckgo browser.
Sorry to hijack, but can anyone help me with my issue?
I’m using librewolf and since about a week or two I noticed a speed issue. Overall my internet is fast, way faster then I need in fact, but websites load at a unreasonably slow speed.
When opening anything librewolf just sits there loading for a few second (probably up to ~10) then page opens fine. Video playback works great too. What could be the issue?
Could be DNS?
It’s almost never DNS, except when it is.
Try setting your DNS to adguards default servers and see if that helps.
Those addresses are 94.140.14.14 and 94.140.15.15.
If you don’t want to do that you could always set it to 1.1.1.1 but adguards DNS servers also help filter ads so that’s nice.
I don’t know. If I use chrome on the same device there are no issues. You can’t be certain but I think it’s not DNS.
That might be evidence in favour of it being a DNS issue. Google Chrome doesn’t always use the system’s DNS.
Good to know, but for now it seems like the issue solved itself. Will report later if anything changes.
Do you use many addons? Resetting everything to stock and reinstalling addons one by one is my go-to as occasionally your profile is the issue. Just backup your profile beforehand and there’s 0 loss, aside from like 20 minutes.
Mobile adblock
I don’t use it because of mobile adblock only. There are multiple private chromium browsers which have mobile adblock, and also one supporting extensions : kiwi browser.
I use Firefox because it’s a competing engine to chromium, and it looks good.
I also have all the synced bookmarks from my PC Firefox, which I use for the same reason, and because I got used to it.
I normally don’t jump on bandwagons, but this is the way. After using ublock on firefox on my phone, it was an easy decision to switch from chrome to firefox (librewolf) on my computer too (so everything would sync lol)
Because it’s the only browser not based on Google’s Chromium rendering engine (Webview, WebKit? whatever). Using any other browser supports Google’s monopoly over how we browse the internet and what we are allowed to see. No, fuck Google.
Edit: spelling
I just wanna add that one reason this monopoly is dangerous is that Google (could and nowadays) does use it to dictate “web standards”. So e.g. they don’t come anymore from organizations that develop standards but Google just forces their own standards by sheer power of market dominance.
Yes! I failed to dive deeper, but you expressed it well. They have already planned to remove the option to have ad-blockers in Chrome… what will come next?
If you’re interested at all:
Google Chrome is a fork of the open source Chromium with several Google proprietary features. Chromium uses the Blink engine. Blink is a fork of a large component of WebKit called WebCore. Apple primarily develops WebKit (and by proxy WebCore), itself being a fork of KHTML and KJS which were actually discontinued this year.
Thank you, it gets complicated as you dive deeper. Am I right when I think that Chromium, although Open Source, is mainly developed by Google and therefore follows Google’s agenda?
As of 2020, Chromium was made more permissive in accepting additional code. Before this, Chromium rejected a lot of outside code. Microsoft is now the biggest contributor outside of Google. Samsung, Intel, ARM and Apple are other notable contributors. There are several features found in the code that aren’t used by Google at all. Chrome is 100% Google’s agenda. Chromium does include Google services that Google rejects the removal of. Of course Google would rather you use them. Microsoft just removes them. As do others. But the features others have submitted to the Chromium code are of course used in their forks and possibly others. I would say Chromium is less of Google’s agenda than it used to be. As it’s not entirely neutral, there is still Google influence behind it.
Because it’s not Chrome
Because it’s open source
Because I can get it on all my devices
Because I like the work Mozilla does
Because it’s private and secure by default
Came here to say all of this, so thank you for saving me keystrokes :)
All of these and then some.
A small part is that I’m supporting the underdog.
It’s not created by a company that sells ads.
Cause fuck Google
I was going to say that lol
Because it’s never let me down.
I started using it pretty much from the beginning and have never had a reason to stop. When Chrome came along, I thought the whole idea of using a browser made by Google was obviously awful, so I just kept using Firefox. And I’m still using it.
There were a few moments where Firefox seemed to stumble a bit and I did give Chrome a try. Otherwise, Firefox has been my primary browser for ages. Even to the point where I was using a portable version on a locked down computer ages ago. It just works and it respects me as a user.
Because I’m not comfortable using a tool of a mega corporation trying to shape the internet to show more ads to ppl
It’s pretty much this. No one is going to notice a ~40ms difference in render time. It’s functionally the same as alternatives. The main benefit is simply that it’s not controlled by Google.
Ublock Origin
Isn’t that also on Chrome??
Yeah, but chrome doesn’t allow uBlock Origin to run fully, and it allows ads through.
For now
I was talking about Android, but on PC Ublock is much more effective on Firefox than on Chrome.
Because it’s one of the only remaining browsers (the other one being Safari) that doesn’t run on Chromium. We must protect FireFox and Safari with our lives because if they die out then Google has a monopoly on the browser space. Not something anyone wants… I mean look at their Manifest V3, and web DRM controversies. They are trying to ruin the web. Don’t let them people!
Plus, I just like the ability to customize the toolbar, and FireFox Sync is just brilliant for syncing between mobile and desktop!
Google has too much power over the web, also I just like Firefox.
Chrome runs like garbage compared to Firefox, and this has always been the case for me. I didn’t make the switch in 2008. I also had a bad feeling that Chrome would become the new IE with every other browser ditching their own rendering engine and basing on Chromium.
People back then said it was OK because Chromium is ostensibly open-source. Look where that got us. Surprise, it’s still controlled by Google!
It’s FOSS, respects my privacy, doesn’t try to kill my adblock and it’s the only option that doesn’t support a big evil monopoly
I just don’t want to support the monopoly.
Also Firefox has been so tempting since the new engine written in Rust came out. It has a wide range of supporting add-ons.
Works well
Extendable
Open source
Not chrome based
I think Firefox is a pretty cool guy. Eh has great add-ons and customization and doesn’t afraid of anything
Holy moly that takes me back.
It’s an older meme, but it checks out.
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