I will downvote Glenn Greenwald without exception because I consider him to be a fascist. The times when he makes good points are straight out of the fascist playbook of stealing leftist points to redirect people into a fake version of class struggle. In his case, it’s a rather obvious struggle to portray the democrats as “actually worse” in order to get Trump elected without ever explicitly supporting Trump - a perfect mirror image of CPUSA’s “vote against fascism” campaigns.
I don’t know or care whether Glenn consciously supports Trump in his own mind. Nor do I think it invalidates the good work he did a decade ago. People like him, Nick Brana, Jimmy Dore, and Russell Brand will always claim to support a third party, but what they’re building isn’t a communist party connected to class struggles; its a rebranded Intellectual Dark Web. If you want to see this laid bare, watch Jimmy Dore criticize Cornell West the second he mentions Donald Trump, but as a “progressive”: https://youtu.be/vv9WUBuahsY
People will interpret this as me saying you have to vote democrat for harm reduction and reflexively downvote, so let me just say I’m a member of a communist party that runs a 3rd party presidential campaign.
I respect your opinion on this, but i don’t agree. For one thing i think calling Glenn Greenwald a fascist is a stretch. Libertarian yes, right wing on some issues for sure, but fascist, no. The same goes for the likes of Jimmy Dore: i don’t much like any of these people and i don’t think they are in any way our “allies”, but that doesn’t mean we should reflexively reject everything they say even when it’s true. All that does is cede ground to the right wing because it allows them to position themselves as the ones who dare point out the truth about liberals and their hypocrisy which is clear for all to see.
I also don’t agree with policing whether or not it’s ok to agree with what someone says based on whether or not that helps or hinders Trump getting elected. I think this obsession with Trump and with the results of US elections is misguided and counterproductive. I consider the tendency of the CPUSA to want to help democrats get elected (just so that republicans aren’t) to be wrong and opportunist. I have been around long enough to see that in practice it really doesn’t make much if any difference at all who gets elected. The rich still steal from the poor, the police still murder migrants and minorities, the empire continues to wage wars abroad.
that doesn’t mean we should reflexively reject everything they say even when it’s true
I’ll have to agree with this — if someone is parroting leftist points for bad reasons, we should point that out, but that doesn’t make the leftist points themselves illegitimate.
We should take care to avoid reductio ad Hitlerum — Hitler abstaining from eating meat doesn’t mean veganism is a Nazi take
I will downvote Glenn Greenwald without exception because I consider him to be a fascist. The times when he makes good points are straight out of the fascist playbook of stealing leftist points to redirect people into a fake version of class struggle. In his case, it’s a rather obvious struggle to portray the democrats as “actually worse” in order to get Trump elected without ever explicitly supporting Trump - a perfect mirror image of CPUSA’s “vote against fascism” campaigns.
I don’t know or care whether Glenn consciously supports Trump in his own mind. Nor do I think it invalidates the good work he did a decade ago. People like him, Nick Brana, Jimmy Dore, and Russell Brand will always claim to support a third party, but what they’re building isn’t a communist party connected to class struggles; its a rebranded Intellectual Dark Web. If you want to see this laid bare, watch Jimmy Dore criticize Cornell West the second he mentions Donald Trump, but as a “progressive”: https://youtu.be/vv9WUBuahsY
People will interpret this as me saying you have to vote democrat for harm reduction and reflexively downvote, so let me just say I’m a member of a communist party that runs a 3rd party presidential campaign.
I respect your opinion on this, but i don’t agree. For one thing i think calling Glenn Greenwald a fascist is a stretch. Libertarian yes, right wing on some issues for sure, but fascist, no. The same goes for the likes of Jimmy Dore: i don’t much like any of these people and i don’t think they are in any way our “allies”, but that doesn’t mean we should reflexively reject everything they say even when it’s true. All that does is cede ground to the right wing because it allows them to position themselves as the ones who dare point out the truth about liberals and their hypocrisy which is clear for all to see.
I also don’t agree with policing whether or not it’s ok to agree with what someone says based on whether or not that helps or hinders Trump getting elected. I think this obsession with Trump and with the results of US elections is misguided and counterproductive. I consider the tendency of the CPUSA to want to help democrats get elected (just so that republicans aren’t) to be wrong and opportunist. I have been around long enough to see that in practice it really doesn’t make much if any difference at all who gets elected. The rich still steal from the poor, the police still murder migrants and minorities, the empire continues to wage wars abroad.
I’ll have to agree with this — if someone is parroting leftist points for bad reasons, we should point that out, but that doesn’t make the leftist points themselves illegitimate.
We should take care to avoid reductio ad Hitlerum — Hitler abstaining from eating meat doesn’t mean veganism is a Nazi take
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The funny thing is that if you had good reasons, we might be upvoting and agreeing with you
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