edit: hey guys, 60+ comments, can’t reply from now on, but know that I am grateful for your comments, keep the convo going. Thank you to the y’all people who gave unbiased answers and thanks also to those who told me about Waydroid and Docker

edit: Well, now that’s sobering, apparently I can do most of these things on Windows with ease too. I won’t be switching back to Windows anytime soon, but it appears that my friend was right. I am getting FOMO Fear of missing out right now.

I do need these apps right now, but there are some apps on Windows for which we don’t have a great replacement

  1. Adobe
  2. MS word (yeah, I don’t like Libre and most of Libre Suit) it’s not as good as MS suite, of c, but it’s really bad.
  3. Games ( a big one although steam is helping bridge the gap)
  4. Many torrented apps, most of these are Windows specific and thus I won’t have any luck installing them on Linux.
  5. Apparently windows is allowing their users to use some Android apps?

Torrented apps would be my biggest concern, I mean, these are Windows specific, how can I run them on Linux? Seriously, I want to know how. Can wine run most of the apps without error? I am thinking of torrenting some educational software made for Windows.

Let me list the customizations I have done with my xfce desktop and you tell me if I can do that on Windows.

I told my friend that I can’t leave linux because of all the customization I have done and he said, you just don’t like to accept that Windows can do that too. Yeah, because I think it can’t do some of it (and I like Linux better)

But yeah, let’s give the devil it’s due, can I do these things on Windows?

  1. I have applications which launch from terminal eg: vlc would open vlc (no questions asked, no other stuff needed, just type vlc)
  2. Bash scripts which updates my system (not completely, snaps and flatpaks seem to be immune to this). I am pretty sure you can’t do this on Windows.
  3. I can basically automate most of my tasks and it has a good integration with my apps.
  4. I can create desktop launchers.
  5. Not update my system, I love to update because my updates aren’t usually 4 freaking GB and the largest update I have seen has been 200-300 mbs, probably less but yeah, I was free to not update my PC if I so choose. Can you do this on Windows? And also, Linux updates fail less often, I mean, it might break your system, but the thing won’t stop in the middle and say “Bye Bye, updates failed” and now you have to waste 4GB again to download the update. PS: You should always keep your apps upto date mostly for security reasons, but Linux won’t force it on you and ruin your workflow.
  6. Create custom panel plugin.

  1. My understanding is that the Windows terminal sucks? I don’t know why, it just looks bad.

I am sure as hell there are more but this is at the top of my mind rn, can I do this on Windows. Also, give me something that you personally do on Linux but can’t do it on Windows.

  • Nibodhika@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    • Even if you can use an alternative file explorer you can’t uninstall the native one, so that’s not really replaceable. And even if you could there’s the DE and the backend for graphics that I mentioned which you most definitely can’t. The fact that people realise that being able to choose a web browser is a good thing but never consider the same of other parts of the system is truly amazing to me.

    • That’s cool, didn’t knew that was possible,bI guess then that the file formation thing should be moved to the possible but so difficult might as well be impossible category.

    • Even if the windows store did the same, it’s a closed garden, so you can only update stuff Microsoft has approved, whereas anyone can spawn their own repo of packages for any of the many package managers out there. To give an example I would consider Android to NOT have this ability I described for Linux (at least not to the same extent), because system and apps updates are separated and because the play store is a walled garden that Google controls, and the moment you add F-droid or other alternatives you now have multiple steps to update everything. I agree that Flatpaks and the like are shifting this, but it’s not hard to imagine a package manager that can natively handle those as well just like apt can handle both binary and source packages.

    • You’re missing the point of being able to fix the system, it’s not about what you are likely to do, is about what you can or can’t do. I agree with you that you’re not likely to do it, and you seem a lot more knowledgeable than me on Windows so I believe that everything you said there is true, but the fact that you’re stopped at the source code on Windows is exactly my point. I saw this a lot when playing around with game engines, Unity’s bugs were annoying and all you could do was report them and wait, on Unreal and Godot you could hop in and find the issue in the code and get a better understanding and possibly fix it, just because the average game programmer won’t do it doesn’t mean it’s not possible.

    • I know tiling window managers exist for Windows, but in my experience they’re all shit and miss things and are not as well integrated with other stuff such as virtual desktops which is essential. Which is why I put it on the possible but difficult category.

    • But they’re not flexible enough, afaik (and you seem to know more so please correct me if I’m wrong) you can’t move virtual desktops from one monitor to another or choose whether each monitor should have their own set, or even choose whether you switch virtual desktops on only one or all monitors at a time. Which is why I specified as “that actually work” because the ones that exist work in only one way, so if you’re okay with that great but if not it’s the same as not having them.

    • Last I used KDE that was the default behaviour, and I’m pretty sure that’s easily configured on the shortcuts section of the system settings app. On the other hand to change these on windows you need to fiddle with regedit and some shortcuts are simply hardcoded so are impossible to change.