There was previously discussion about Russell Brand denying allegations that were to be shown in a TV documentary, and now things are developing.
There was previously discussion about Russell Brand denying allegations that were to be shown in a TV documentary, and now things are developing.
Well, on another site i saw a gif/video of Brand defending himself. To sum up, he said he has been very open about his past promiscuity many times in the past, all encounters were consensual, has witnesses contradicting the accusations, it’s a very directed agenda by specific media towards discrediting him and to stay tuned for how it turns out.
Well yeah, of course he’s gonna say that.
Well yeah, is it not what an innocent person would also say?
In a democracy, the premise of “innocent until proven guilty” is quite important and I’m wary of a trial by social media.
If he’s found guilty then he’ll get whatever is coming to him, but I’m not going to cast aspersions until that time.
Going out in the media to cry about cancel culture and how you’re innocent isn’t exactly the behavior of an innocent man. Someone who truly knows they’re innocent will clam up, beat the court case, and then declare vindication.
How many times has this actually worked? I’m not going to go on a very far limb to say that social media’s ability to revisit topics is very very very low.
In fact it seems like it’s the opposite and and once you’re out of the media cycle you’re gone.
I wouldn’t take your advice. 👍 By the time the court case is over and you’ve ‘won’ you’ve lost your job house and family to bad press.
Someone who’s innocent generally wouldn’t be dropped by their manager either. They know something we don’t and are jumping ship real quick.
They definitely know something we don’t and until they come forward with that knowledge, we still won’t know what that something is. And unless all doubt are cleared, the ambiguous situation will cast shadow on his presumed guilt.
It’s his word against hers/theirs now.
Not really, one of the women went to a rape crisis centre right after he assaulted her and the investigators were able to verify this, as well as text messages between her and Brand where he apologised for raping her. The MET are asking for other victims to come forward so I think it’s unlikely the end.
Oh he denied the accusations? Well that changes everything! Yes, it must be the mean ol’ mainstream medias fault then! Please.
Why not though? Media have been proven to create false stories before, so it’s not like they wouldn’t.
I know right? Just like they railroaded Masterson. He’s 100% innocent. He told me so.
Masterson already had a trial and was proven guilty. Has that happened in Brand’s case as well? If not, then please avoid treating it as such, for you would be incorrect.
I apologize if I gave you the impression I give a fuck about Brand, or your opinion on the matter. We’re done here.
Then why even start? …
Why do you care?
About Brand, i don’t really care in particular. It’s the mob lynching i’m wary of. Branding people as guilty before it is an established fact seems to be a gulty pleasure, pun intended, of even lemmy users. I’d like for people to stop doing that before it becomes the normal thing to do.
About this conversation, i only care because communication is the foundation of civilization. We have many languages, so it’s a pretty big part of who we are, even though some of us have come to dread talking to one another.
I have no ill meanings in this whole thing, only that we should try to be better for our own state of wellbeing.
He didn’t have witnesses contradicting the stories of him using force on the women.
How do you know? Was he already on trial and failed to provide such witnesses?