• ekZepp@lemmy.worldEnglish
    139·
    10 months ago

    In reality nothing is just black or white, but sadly, there are some truths here.

    • Black ComradeOP
      2513·
      10 months ago

      Not “some truth”, but “all truth”. The USA war machine only cares about profit and keeping other countries under their boots, no matter how many children have to die.

    • 新星 [they/them/🏳️‍⚧️]English
      83·
      10 months ago

      nothing is just black or white

      I would agree most things are subjective (there is a limited degree of objectiveness like two planes hit two towers). That said, care to explain what else US troops are fighting for?

      • words_number@programming.dev
        121·
        10 months ago

        Also objective: The so called “war on terror” actually led to way more terror and helped the larges terror organizations to grow and gain power and weapons.

        Subjective thoughts about that: They knew and they wanted this to happen. The goal was never to fight terrorism, the goal was having some kind of long-term rival to justify constant war, to give billions of dollars to arms industry, to keep undifferentiated nationalism as high as possible, to distract the masses from their economical exploitation, to have a fake reason to overthrow governments (actual reasons being economic and imperialist of course), to keep undemocratic “exceptional” rules in place, etc. etc.

      • pjhenry1216@kbin.social
        36·
        10 months ago

        I mean, the US troops do provide a lot of aid around the world. They do more than fight. You can argue an imbalance, sure. And it’s also clear they can bring some measure of stability with their presence as we’ve seen what can happen the moment they’re removed.

        • Black ComradeOP
          64·
          10 months ago

          Not really, troops only purpose is to serve the US interest. Any “help” they might look like to give, is due to something that aligns with their interest. The US military is a terrorist organization.

          • pjhenry1216@kbin.social
            55·
            10 months ago

            I can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t use reason to arrive at. That’s an unfalsifiable claim. Yes, the US does things that won’t hurt them and has been known to do things that help them. I’m sure you’ve done things that is in your best interest as well. That’s a far cry from proof of terrorism. It’s absolute insanity and conspiracy theory to make that jump. I’m not going to continue this discussion.

              • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
                21·
                10 months ago

                You got a list from Stalin and Mao as well?

                No?

                You fucking tankies man.

                It’s not bad if an authoritarian regime disguised as communism does it?

                Yes america has done fucked up shit but at least we aren’t backing the invaders against Ukraine.

                If you guys all think this ideology is so great, either buy some land and give it a shot, or move to Russia or china, since y’all love them so much.

                • Black ComradeOP
                  12·
                  10 months ago

                  Lol, “America, love it or leave it all over again” 😂. Same shit that people were spewing whenever people spoke against the war in Vietnam. You brainwashed yankies love defending genocide more than you love oppressing other countries in the name of capital. If America is so great why can’t you take criticism without getting so defensive? 😂 Because you all know America is cancer, but need to defend it so you can live with yourself and pretend that you are not the actual bad guys. Americans level of cognitive dissonance is definitively something to admire.

                  Here is a good and well documented list of every atrocity USA committed, it’s BAD:

                  https://dessalines.github.io/essays/us_atrocities.html

                  USA is a terrorist state!

              • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
                15·
                10 months ago

                Okay… Where’s the documented list of every good they did so that you can actually look at both sides and make a reasoned decision…

                Wait? You don’t have one? So you’re biased as fuck and only looking at one dataset that corroborates your bias… Who’d have thunk!

                • Aria
                  32·
                  10 months ago

                  It’s the same list, good actions go at the bottom, it’s just empty right now because they haven’t done anything good. It’ll be appended when they die.