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Don’t trust the liberals, they will betray you
I dont get that reference
Asking a communist for their vote in a liberal election has the same amount of efficacy as asking a child to write a letter to Santa
Ignoring the betrayals, liberals don’t even offer me anything. First, they act as if socialists have major influence on the US’ destiny every time they fail. Like mother fucker, most of the country doesn’t vote. Are you telling me we’re all secretly communists?
They refuse to acknowledge that even if I compromised and voted for Hilary Clinton, that motherfucker would’ve still lost because the system allows like 5 random people to give the victory to someone else even if they’re unpopular by millions of votes.
Then, when they do get in office, they continue to fund the war machine, refuse to mobilize when the overturning of Roe was leaked, and diddled on their phones while everything turn to shit. They keep allowing conservatives to monopolize every conversation and tragedy and crisis. They choose the worse motherfuckers to be appointed to positions. No one can form a coherent sentence. Absolute morons.
This is the same kind of politics of resentment that splits anarchists and leninists. Not sure if I dig it
Liberals are not our allies and have historically proven ready and willing to jump to violent fascistic repression of any popular socialist movement. That includes the liberals who have appeared to be well meaning progressives. We can hope to educate and attract people away from liberalism, but any alliance is doomed from the start. Anarchists, Leninists, Maoists, any tendency of leftist should recognize this. Hell, opposition to liberals should unify them all at least temporarily!opposition to liberals should unify them all at least temporarily!
Yeah this is the stage we are at and the page we should all be on so to speak.
I just do not have an issue with the right wing of the DSA. Yknow?
they’re not very willing to look past electoralism to any other kind of politics, so they’re neither useful allies nor particularly relevant to any projects I care about?
Right, but I’m not worried about them like killing me during an uprising, yknow?
The liberals are going to report you to the Gestapo because “it’s the law” and when you’re about to be executed by fascists they’ll give you the biggest “I’m so sorry” look to alleviate their own guilt.
How did you think Nazis came to power in Germany in the first place?
Bold of you to think they’ll apologize and not enthusiastically cheer on the fascist regime
They just want things to be normal again. yknow?
yeah I guess. I have them firmly in the roll eyes and ignore category. they’re not enemies but they’re also not friends, y’know?
Yeah, I’m not saying they’re good, just that this kind of resentment towards them is unhealthy
I’d argue it’s more unhealthy to dismiss criticisms of liberals, talk down to people in this thread, and say that people rightfully calling them out is “politics of resentment”.
The SPD killed all the Communists in the German revolution. Liberals are generally significantly to their Right.
I don’t have particular issue with them, just no faith lol. Rather I think the DSA in its membership spectrum from straight up lib, to socdem (lib), to some genuine commited leftists, can do good things on a more localized level.
However, I don’t believe most anyone in the right wing of the DSA will have our (committed anticapitalist leftists) backs when shit hits the fan. When it comes down to supporting the vulnerable, and those who actually work to protect and advocate for them, against the violent forces of capitalist repression? I don’t see a lot of radlibs that gather under the very broad DSA umbrella sticking with professed convictions when they’re tested. So many of these are the people who prioritized tone policing and decried property damage during the George Floyd uprisings. I have little faith in them.
The DSA is certainly a far sight better than most any major party or bloc in American politics, but that’s a pretty pathetically low bar to clear. Mostly, I just don’t think of them at all tho lol
Idk they’re usually transphobic
That’s fair, I don’t see a lot of that in my chapter, but it’s majority Marxist, so the right wing has to be better behaved. I forget that national leadership includes a cop and my idea of what “right wing” means is deeply skewed.
lmao I would hope there was a politics of resentment between socialists and fascists, liberals and anti-communtist “progressives”
Otherwise wtf is the point of our politics
Don’t trust the Liberals, they will betray you. -
Salvador Allende
Much of Latin America wasn’t even hardline communist. They just wanted peasants to have a slightly better standard of living, and the result? Literal stabbings in the back before being dragged to some dark basement and tortured to death by goons trained by Nazi refugees and the CIA
Turning to hardline communism not from want but need.
i like that they made fascism the mother of liberalism
Tankies dont even want a voting system though. Y’all want an elite club who pledges allegiance to the club (even over the country) and only does things that benefits this elite club. Just your modern day feudal lords.
every single Marxist-Leninist country has a voting system and has far more democratic participation than any capitalist country
A voting system with no opposing candidate lol.
if you ignore all the candidates except the one who wins, sure
If you look at the National People’s Congress of China, you’ll find lots of different parties and independents.
If you’re just looking at President Xi, that’s equivalent to complaining that Rishi Sunak was unopposed in his election to prime minister of the UK
