I don’t know what I’m doing differently but I really haven’t experienced the things everyone complains about. It’s been fine overall. Not a ton to see but that just means I don’t waste so much time.
Interesting topic - I’ve seen it surface up a few times recently.
I’ve never been a mod anywhere so I can’t accurately think what workflows/tools a mod needs to be satisfied w/ their, well, mod’ing.
For the sake of my education at least, can you elaborate what do you consider decent moderation tools/workflows? What gaps do you see between that and Lemmy?
PS: I genuinely want to understand this topic better but your post doesn’t provide any details. 😅
One of the major issues is replication and propagation of illegal material. Because of the way that content is mirrored and replicated across the fediverse, attacks that flood communities with things like CSAM inevitably find their way to other federated sites due to the interconnectedness of the fediverse.
The only response currently to dealing with these types of attacks, even if they’re not directed at you, is to generally defederate with the instance being attacked. This means whoever was attacking the site with CSAM has won, because they successfully made it so that the community becomes disjointed and disconnected from the rest of the fediverse with the hopes that it will die.
I see.
So what do you think would help w/ this particular challenge? What kinds of tools/facilities would help counter that?
Off the top of my head, do you think
- The sign up process should be more rigorous?
- The first couple of posts/comments by new users should be verified by the mods?
- Mods should be notified of posts/comments w/ poor score?
Is there any instance that doesnt allow automated archives of reddit posts?
lemmit.online runs on it’s own instance. have you encountered other reddit archival bots?
Seems like 80% of the posts i see across most instances are just bot scrapes from reddit.
I escaped ads and a dictatorship only to come here and be told how great communism is with an even greater frequency.
Blocking hexbear communities just led to those users going to other instances and making the whack-a-mole more difficult.
Great news, communism is neither an ad nor a dictatorship!
This whole federated system is about whack-a-mole.
I hate politics, so I filter it out. Oh, look, somebody spun up a new instance! Time to filter out the same fucking communities I filtered on every other goddamn instance.
Sports is another one. I hoped everything would end up on fanaticus.social but no, we need our own communities on our own instances, making it so that there are seven communities dedicated to the same team.
I would recommend using a client that allows instance and/or keyword blocking. I believe Sync and Connect on Android offer these features amongst others. I would also raise this issue with the dev of whatever client you’re using, as a lot of clients now have this feature.
The Lemmy backend is also getting instance blocking shortly.
I’m a pretty old fashioned guy, I don’t really use the mobile apps, so I’m hoping for the backend update sooner rather than later, since I use the mlmym layout wherever available.
I have Connect on my phone but I don’t use it often.
That’s fair. Instance blocking at the lemmy level will be a hugely popular feature. The backend feature is merging very soon!
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That’s a bit of paranoia to think people from Hexbear are out to spread their evil ideas to polute your mind any way they can…
I dont think it is because of me, but if they are getting fewer reactions they might apread out.
Yeah my local is just as trash as the all though?
I’m just about ready to give up. I knew Lemmy wasn’t going to be Reddit, but to be honest it feels like everybody here is trying to make something work that isn’t, and it’s exhausting blocking all these stupid fucking communities made for extremely specific weird shit.
Oh and if you haven’t noticed, there’s only a handful of people who are responsible for most of the news and politics posting, they always post certain takes in issues as well. seems pretty suspicious to me and while I know you guys all think we escaped “big media” and the gross amount of state sponsored misinformation on reddit, but I’m pretty sure they’re here already and they are practically running the information communities.
The ultimate method is:
Cultivate your own ‘Subscribed’ feed.
Then almost every post is good.
You choose your own level of involvement.
Yeah my local is just as trash as the all though?
I honestly mostly stick to subscribed.
Once a day I check all with “Top of the day”
For emerging communities I use !trendingcommunities@feddit.nl (which just moved today to !trendingcommunities@endlesstalk.org
I’m just about ready to give up.
Don’t force yourself if you don’t feel like it. Lemmy still have a lot of rough edges, hopefully it will get better over time, but at the moment it takes some commitment to use it as a Reddit replacement
Have you tried kbin? Same content in that it’s Lemmy compatible, but slightly different sorting algorithm which (in my view) seems to result in a more rounded/balanced set of posts being promoted.
Yes there a different set of issues - it’s earlier in it’s development phase, but developing fast (collapsibling comments is being worked on, API (and therefore 3rd party apps) is imminent, many other improvements are developed and expecting to go live this month…Kbin is like 7 people posting content lol
Circa 60,000 active users, but whatever…
You are rather missing my point. Because it sorts on boosts rather than upvotes it surfaces different things in the federated ‘all’ feed.
Edit: As corrected below it’s about 10k monthly active users, but that’s still circa 10% of the whole threadiverse (kbin + Lemmy) and only Lemmy.world is larger than kbin.social
What’s the difference between a boost and an upvote?
I think a boost is referring to the Mastodon kind, so basically a retweet
Indeed. Activity pub includes favourites and boosts.
Lemmy uses favourites as an upvote. Kbin does too, but kbin also allows boots and it considers that a boost (which is like a retweet) is a more significant endorsement so sorting and reputation is based more on boosts than on upvotes.
Slightly less than 10 000 right now, actually. Still, we remain smaller only than Lemmy.world
Thanks for the correction, I read the wrong number! I’ve edited accordingly.
Turn federation off and browse /all. 90% of content is the same 4-5 posters or very niche magazines that are full of posts exclusively submitted by the magazine owner. Comments are a bit more varied but you can’t throw a stone without hitting one of about 7 frequent commenters, which also includes the 4-5 post submitters.
It’s federated, so the local user count is completely irrelevant.
Especially when OP even specifically said that you would see the SAME content, just with different sorting.
I have built my own instance and federate with any instance that has interesting communities. No problems here.
Home feed for the win. Granted I should probably migrate to another instance (again). I can only block so many anime and cat communities…
