Its a time consuming and very conspicuous route out. The solution is to change guard patterns/behaviors to involve “look at this corridor regularly”. The issue is that the guard in the tower was actively ignoring his job.
So punitive actions seemed right to me?
A few friends suggested they paint that with the low friction/anti-climbing paint that a lot of military bases have on their walls. I can speak from experience that that wears away very quickly and is mostly a false sense of security. Its the kind of thing that is likely not worth the cost of maintaining for buying more time before detecting someone trying to break in/out. Not something that you need when you just have to glance over every few minutes while doing a sweep.
If you look at the video, it only took him a handful of seconds to climb the wall, if you look away for 2 minutes that could be plenty of time for someone to escape if they time it right.
It seem like what’s really needed is a small roof/awning build over that area so you can’t just climb straight up to the roof.
To my understanding, the video footage only shows the start. He gets about one story up in a few seconds. My understanding is that it is at least two or three stories before the “razor wire”. If only because, if it was only as high as we can see on the video: People could get up with a running jump.
So as long as you look over as part of patrols/surveillance, you are going to see someone approaching a known problem point or in the act of climbing itself.
The first time I saw the video, you could see him through the window on the door landing on the other side less than a minute later. For some reason every version of the clip I’ve seen posted since then cuts off earlier. I don’t know what the layout of the prison is, but I don’t think he spent much time at all running around in the open on the roof and once he was on the other side of that wall I suspect he was somewhere they don’t expect prisons to be at that time so watching it was probably a bit of an afterthought.
Seems like adding numerous expensive and time-consuming security layers isn’t the most efficient way to prevent them escaping. Maybe the prisons should try giving them better living conditions and then they won’t try so hard to escape? Could be cheaper, and more humane, and might even lead to a lower recidivism rate if other countries attempts are anything to go by.
While I am all for prison reform, that is not the issue here. Even countries with prison systems that aren’t some of the most horrifying places on earth have to deal with escape attempts. It is human nature to not want to be caged.
Also: Even if we actually cared at all about rehabilitation, this was a violent killer who stabbed a woman to death in front of her children. He is not rehabilitated right now and would still be a threat to society whether he was receiving help or not.
Maybe the prisons should try giving them better living conditions and then they won’t try so hard to escape?
Is there a living condition you can be forcibly held in that would not make you want to leave?
I am all for prison reform (I’m largely a prison abolitionist but I’ll take what wins I can get), but if you’re going to have prisons you’re going to need layered security.
Its a time consuming and very conspicuous route out. The solution is to change guard patterns/behaviors to involve “look at this corridor regularly”. The issue is that the guard in the tower was actively ignoring his job.
So punitive actions seemed right to me?
A few friends suggested they paint that with the low friction/anti-climbing paint that a lot of military bases have on their walls. I can speak from experience that that wears away very quickly and is mostly a false sense of security. Its the kind of thing that is likely not worth the cost of maintaining for buying more time before detecting someone trying to break in/out. Not something that you need when you just have to glance over every few minutes while doing a sweep.
If you look at the video, it only took him a handful of seconds to climb the wall, if you look away for 2 minutes that could be plenty of time for someone to escape if they time it right.
It seem like what’s really needed is a small roof/awning build over that area so you can’t just climb straight up to the roof.
To my understanding, the video footage only shows the start. He gets about one story up in a few seconds. My understanding is that it is at least two or three stories before the “razor wire”. If only because, if it was only as high as we can see on the video: People could get up with a running jump.
So as long as you look over as part of patrols/surveillance, you are going to see someone approaching a known problem point or in the act of climbing itself.
The first time I saw the video, you could see him through the window on the door landing on the other side less than a minute later. For some reason every version of the clip I’ve seen posted since then cuts off earlier. I don’t know what the layout of the prison is, but I don’t think he spent much time at all running around in the open on the roof and once he was on the other side of that wall I suspect he was somewhere they don’t expect prisons to be at that time so watching it was probably a bit of an afterthought.
Unfortunately the only place I’ve been able to find that full uncut video is on the local nbc channel’s Facebook page, https://fb.watch/n2at4XZCf9/?mibextid=NnVzG8
Seems like adding numerous expensive and time-consuming security layers isn’t the most efficient way to prevent them escaping. Maybe the prisons should try giving them better living conditions and then they won’t try so hard to escape? Could be cheaper, and more humane, and might even lead to a lower recidivism rate if other countries attempts are anything to go by.
While I am all for prison reform, that is not the issue here. Even countries with prison systems that aren’t some of the most horrifying places on earth have to deal with escape attempts. It is human nature to not want to be caged.
Also: Even if we actually cared at all about rehabilitation, this was a violent killer who stabbed a woman to death in front of her children. He is not rehabilitated right now and would still be a threat to society whether he was receiving help or not.
Is there a living condition you can be forcibly held in that would not make you want to leave?
I am all for prison reform (I’m largely a prison abolitionist but I’ll take what wins I can get), but if you’re going to have prisons you’re going to need layered security.
Norway prisons seem pretty chill.
Theyre certainly a big-ass step in the right direction.