• Jordan117@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I’m all for shitting on Xitter, but this is a pretty bad article. It’s written like somebody put it through Google Translate a few times, and doesn’t cite any sources for any of its claims. Closest I could find was this Business Insider story on a report by Apptopia, which only says that its downloads in various app stores declined 30%, not its overall userbase.

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      10 months ago

      Un-fact checked, poorly seemingly AI written, citing no sources? So you’re saying it’s perfect for Twitter?

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      I haven’t had the chance to look up the data myself, but if downloads did decline in a way that’s unprecedented its a strong loss leader. To be really interesting though you’d have to couple it with other metrics.

      Edit: There are people implying they work or worked at Twitter. They didn’t.

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        Declining downloads simply means a slowing of growth, whereas this is claiming a user decline. That only shows up in traffic logs, transit commits, or CDN account usage data.

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          10 months ago

          Not necessarily.

          Every time someone buys a new device they have to reinstall the app. So declining downloads could be indicitive of less users.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah and also, in capitalism, if a company ceases to grow, there’s a good chance it will vaporize soon after. It’s not a causation, but it’s a notable correlation.

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              Yup! There are people out there with big pockets watching for stats much subtler than this. It doesn’t always mean much taken on its own, but as a whole can paint an interesting picture.

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                10 months ago

                whole can paint an interesting picture.

                I know there’s meant to be a comma after ‘whole’. But I just pictured someone dumping a whole can of paint on a canvas and yelling “time!” Before walking over and slapping it on an easel at an auction and selling it for millions, while still dripping.

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            Phone replacement is a high seasonality situation. CDN usage and access logs will absolutely show whether usage has declined or not. Release an iPhone and you see a major spike in new downloads, otherwise it’s probably all pretty much background noise.

            My guess is everything involving Twitter has been on a decline, and the things I did know I’m not able to share.

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      10 months ago

      Imagine paying 40 billion for it too. The moron is so disconnected, I hope he gets butt cancer.

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    10 months ago

    (citation needed) Seriously there are zero sources, numbers and article ends with a typical interaction bait. As a Turkish person who knows the Turkish shiftdelete I was almost happy that they have an English version for global market but not this tabloid like junk.

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    Xwitter is a Nazi hate cesspool. I deleted my account not long after Musk took over. I would be delighted to see it fail, and Musk brought down a few notches.

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      10 months ago

      I’d also like to see him brought down a few notches… like down to the bottom of the Mariana Trench in a leaky submarine.

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      I use X pretty much daily and I have no idea where you are getting this from. Haven’t seen a single nazi post.

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        Your feed is much cleaner than the ones I see, that’s for sure. I usually attribute it to being a moderate, since I see fringe nonsense on either end.

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        Honestly, same. I’ve seen a severe decline in post quality, but no nazi posts.

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          I saw that shit all the time before I deleted my account. If you have seen a decline in quality since I deleted my account after Muskrat took over, that place must be absolutely fucked these days.

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            Could it be that some people react more to such posts which makes The Algorithm decide that they like absolutely need to see more of such content?

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              Very likely, yes. I guess it also helps to have quite a broad definition of what being a nazi means.

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      10 months ago

      Good question…

      There’s always some background noise in installs. People get new devices constantly and they’d usually download it again. Those are fewer

      Then there’s usually some consistent downloads from new users. Those are probably down

      Traffic being down is a good measure and that’s dropping too

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      If it counts updates, that would mean 30% fewer people have the app installed.

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          10 months ago

          Give the rapid churn in their code base these days, I’m gonna press X to doubt that.

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          It’s barely been 6 weeks since the change from Twitter to X was announced… I don’t know for certain but I suspect there to have been at least one update in the last month.

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      Everyone? Like, even the nazis? Because there seem to be an awful lot of them on xitter.

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          10 months ago

          Like that server in Mythic Quest, gather them in one place, unplug, and let them scream into the void.

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    10 months ago

    Is he doing this on purpose? He has to be right? What’s the end goal? Was his only goal to destroy Twitter? It’s fascinating

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    “According to a report published by popular research companies”

    I’d like to know to whom “popular research companies” refers, and by what means they’re measuring “losing 30% of users”.

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    Yeah I’ve stopped using Xwitter entirely. Musk is an idiot capitalist who ruins everything he touches.

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    I tried to use it to follow people in crypto but even many of those who stayed are now retweeting right wing conspiracy theories and anti science articles. Twitter is a disgusting hole of hate.

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      Wow, who would have thought that crypto people, the dumbest people on the entire Internet, would end up posting rw conspiracies.

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        Wow, who would have thought the mention of crypto would trigger some random moron to embarrass himself with some butthurt statement.

        I didn’t. I thought such people are not on lemmy yet. I was sadly wrong.

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          mention of crypto would trigger some random moron to embarrass himself

          the self fulfilling prophecy.

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          Funny when the 1 month old account remarks that to the 9 month old account.

          Hate to break it to you bub: the only places where the majority of people do not think cryptocurrencies are a scam, are crypto hangouts, and places where they haven’t heard about cryptos at all.

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            Great content guys, I learned a lot. (writes in notebook: “crypto…is…bad”)

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            Is it funny? Because generally for that to be funny, the account age would have to be linked somehow to credibility. I’m sure you are not stating that,because that would be incredibly stupid.

            Please “brake it to me” more. Explain how everyone thinks that. Maybe some study? Some survey? Explain it to me and then explain why I hell would I care? You have no idea how dumb you seem right now. Like some flat earth dumbass explaining how wrong everybody else is.

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              I apologise if I have offended you or made you doubt your worldview.

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    And they keep on trying to inflate the userbase with bot accounts whose bios are weird and mostly contain suspicious links, amd use those same bots to randomly like anyone’s new posts tweets.

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      My exact though at first. Then I remembered probably half of all Xitter accounts are ghost anyway. Which makes 30% overall decrease equivalent to 60% decrease within active users.

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        You have already applied as much reason as the entire article, and also given as much hard data and sources. In fact, reading your comment is probably worth more than the article.

        PS

        And NO this is NOT sarcasm!

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        Also bots. Bots don’t have ethics or intolerance, so the people running them have no reason to stop.

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        I agree completely that it shouldn’t be, but Twitter and Facebook/Meta are considered tech companies.

        Yes Meta has some tech today, but they were considered a tech company from the beginning, merely for being on the Internet!!!

        IMO That’s like considering a baker a tech company, because they have a cash register with buttons. But that’s the world we live in.