not sure why you are facepalming, I live in a neighboring country to Ukraine and a lot of people here according to polls think that Ukraine should just give up Crimea and accept peace.
From the rest of the world’s point of view, Ukraine had already accepted it’s loss in 2014.
It was only when Russia went “well we’ll have the rest of the country as well then!” that all the other countries decided to help out. Because Europe’s been here before. Nobody stops after just one country. It’s like Jaffa Cakes. You just keep going until there’s none left.
not sure why you are facepalming, I live in a neighboring country to Ukraine and a lot of people here according to polls think that Ukraine should just give up Crimea and accept peace.
That’s the frying pan saying “at least I’m not as bad as the fire!”
I genuinely want peace through negotiation and equally genuinely believe that the war is the result of the imperialist ambitions and heinous actions of the despicable war criminal Putin. Clear enough for you?
yeah but as it stands the “peace treaty” involves Ukraine giving up the occupied territories. SO you can’t really be pro Ukraine and pro peace treaty at the same time.
can’t tell if this is some genuine post, or pro-russia shilling for peace negotiationing between Ukraine and Russia
As the red starred soldiers give up to the blue banded I’ve got an opinion on that topic.
not sure why you are facepalming, I live in a neighboring country to Ukraine and a lot of people here according to polls think that Ukraine should just give up Crimea and accept peace.
From the rest of the world’s point of view, Ukraine had already accepted it’s loss in 2014.
It was only when Russia went “well we’ll have the rest of the country as well then!” that all the other countries decided to help out. Because Europe’s been here before. Nobody stops after just one country. It’s like Jaffa Cakes. You just keep going until there’s none left.
what does that have to do with anything?
It means that giving up Crimea doesn’t end in peace, it’s just pushing the problem to the next time Russia decides to invade again.
“Guys, give up and get yourselves colonized, we’re mildly inconvenienced!”
Peace in our time!
That’s the frying pan saying “at least I’m not as bad as the fire!”
that makes no sense what you just wrote
I genuinely want peace through negotiation and equally genuinely believe that the war is the result of the imperialist ambitions and heinous actions of the despicable war criminal Putin. Clear enough for you?
yeah but as it stands the “peace treaty” involves Ukraine giving up the occupied territories. SO you can’t really be pro Ukraine and pro peace treaty at the same time.
Of course I can. This isn’t some dumbed down video game on rails where you get one treaty from however many years ago and that’s it.
There’s happened a shitload since then, most of it to detriment of the ones that demanded territorial concessions at the start of the war.
If anything, you can’t be pro the regular people of Ukraine who are needlessly being shelled if you’re not pro negotiation of a better peace treaty.