Edit: Looks like you can opt-out of that “new look and feel” pretty easily under the appearance settings but still, whats with putting rounded corners everywhere?
Edit 2: “Explore the web with a softer, more friendly aesthetic featuring rounded corners […] Designed to complement your operating system, whether on Windows 11, MacOS, or Linux.” The fuck does that mean? Windows 11 fair enough but most Linux distros don’t look like that at all.
Designed to complement your operating system, whether on Windows 11, MacOS, or Linux.”
Who the FUCK uses Edge on Linux??
I don’t know, but I’m terrified I’ll one day meet them.
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Me, but because I need chromium for work and refuse to use Chrome. Firefox for everyday browsing.
But… you can just use Chromium on Linux
Nooo just use degoogled chromium
I know one person :'(
Is there even a stable version for Linux? Last time I’ve checked it was still in beta
i don’t think i’ve ever used a microsoft product that didn’t feel like it was still in beta
That’s not fair, solitaire didn’t have too many bugs
And MSPaint has always been the perfection of beauty.
Honestly, has anyone been able to find ms paint bugs? It’s extremely stable too, reliability is king
Closest thing I can think of would be back in the day when colour palettes were small enough that paint had colour blends in its palette, if you filled with one of those, it didn’t treat that filled area as one colour so that you could fill it again with a different colour.
But I wouldn’t even call that a bug so much as a lack of feature. And it was kinda satisfying to fill one of those blended colours and then alternatively fill with the two colours that made the blend and watch it slowly creep out to fill the entire space. Lol I didn’t even realize I still had that memory in the archives.
it was kinda satisfying to fill one of those blended colours and then alternatively fill with the two colours that made the blend and watch it slowly creep out to fill the entire space
You might like this puzzle.
There’s a download link for .deb and .rpm on Microsoft’s website, with no disclaimer that it’s beta.
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Used it for a while. One very nice feature is that when you use multiple profiles, you can specify in which of those external links open in. Every other browser opens them in the window that last had focus so I regularly have work related links open up in the private profile.
Also the performance was quite nice.
But since they continuously rub new services in my face with new versions, I ditched it again.
Mozilla’s “Multi-Account Containers” extension on Firefox does a much better job at the multiple profiles feature you’ve described.
I miss the tab grouping from Chrome based browsers in Firefox.
And I think tab containers don’t provide the separation I need to properly separate work from private.
You might be better off using a custom Firefox profile for that then. Not too well integrated UI-wise sadly though
That’s essentially how this sub-thread started 😁
It’s like they want to drive away the experienced users who don’t need their hands held and rarely need support to focus on the part of the market that will still find ways to break things no matter how much they dumb it down.
You can do that in Chrome too, if you have multiple chrome profiles right clicking on links give you the option to open it in a different profiles window
Yes, but with “external” I meant opening links from other apps like Slack.
Yeah that’s what I mainly used it for. I would right click links on slack and make sure it would open on my work profile or not depending on the context of the link.
Although this could potentially have been when I used the web app rather than the installed app, so i may be misremembering
In the WebApp this would work. Across apps it’s a different story, since they just invoke a system command to open the URL in the associated application. From there it’s in the hands of that application, how to deal with it.
One very nice feature is that when you use multiple profiles, you can specify in which of those external links open in.
is this similar to Firefox containers? dunno why mozzila makes it as a plugin and hasn’t bundled it in yet as a standard feature, literally can’t live without it.
Not quite. Let’s say I have two profiles: “work” and “private”. If I have both open at the same time, they are separate browser windows with different tabs, different settings and different extentions.
I can now specify that external links open in “work”. If I now click on a link in Slack or in Thunderbird, they open up in the window with the “work” profile, even if the “private” window was the last active one.
I use it for work - it allows me to keep things separate.
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For those telling me to change what I am doing, thanks, but no thanks. I use this solution because it works best for me.
Use different user accounts. That provides you with very stronger isolation and separation of concerns, with the bonus that you won’t be exposed to their crap.
How about you just let them use whatever works for them?
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you can use a work sandbox in firefox to keep it seperate
Just installed Edge on Arch after a disastrous Teams call with Firefox and Chromium, figured it was worth trying MS’ browser next time but I’m not holding my breath.
Edge is just Chromium. When they retired IE they switched. It might still work better because it’s the default supposedly built to work with their products so their tweaks should help. But it is Teams and they’ve been doing a lot more updates lately. Did you update to the new version of Teams they’ve been pushing? It’s bad and it’s performance is bad, so that can cause issues.
It’s bad and it’s performance is bad
🔫 Always has been
The Linux app was discontinued last year, I read that we’re supposed to use the PWA now, has it changed?
Corporations which stepped in intune
On Windows it’s visibly the most resource-efficient browser out there. Maybe it holds up on Linux as well?
Beats setting up a Windows VM and extracting a Windows license from asset management if you a have to support Edge customers.
They have the ability to run two websites side by side in one tab. No other browser does that. It’s insanely useful
Only thing I can think of is if you are developing a website or extension and need to make sure there isn’t some subtle browser difference. Though since it uses the same engine as Chrome, that use case should be a lot more niche than it used to be.
Sure they can add rounded corners but can they fix this mess?
MicmosHoefteEdgehat my beloved <3
It’s like they somehow overcentered a div. I didn’t even know it was possible. They used
display: ‘crunch’
in their CSS.
Maybe their devs did their work in Firefox rofl
I gotta say I love that Microsoft has the self confidence to think that there are people who use edge on Linux.
Is there even a version of edge for Linux??
Yea.
It’s reskinned chromium. You can google it if you want. One of the top links is a .deb for me (I am running debian).
That’s … just what Edge is? On every OS it’s Chromium, they’re not shy about that fact. In fact they made a big deal of advertising that they were switching from whatever engine they were trying to half-bake when “new” Edge debuted.
Oh my, I had absolutely no idea. How long until microsoft comes out with Microsoft Office for Linux and it’s just reskinned LibreOffice
Edge is built on Chromium for every OS. When they developed it they said they were using Chromium. This is not special for Linux.
I do. It’s more secure than any other alternative. Not private, but really, really secure.
Softer…like they just wanted to take the edge off.
I’ll see myself out now.
One of my son’s steam buddies is nicknamed Microsoft edging. I think it’s pretty funny, not sure my son gets it… (He’s 15 though, so it won’t be long)
i wish they would take the edge off my computer
As it’s Microsoft, you can be pretty sure the option to turn off the new look and feel will be removed in 6 months
Or half finished and left in there for decades
Smartphones: Rounded everything, nobody actually likes it. Edge:
Just because a few people on Reddit and Lemmy don’t like a thing, doesn’t mean that “nobody” likes it.
I was being hyperbolic. In the billions of people who inhabit this earth, I bet there’s like two or three who genuinely like it. But they are crazy, and their opinions are wrong.
Me! I am crazy and my opinion is that I like the round corners. Well, on Win11 where everything is rounded, anyway.
You are still discrediting anyone who doesn’t share your opinion. First you hyperbolically alleged they don’t exist, now you downplay their numbers and dismiss them as crazy.
Are you still being hyperbolic, or is this just how you genuinely think?
Do YOU like it then? It’s fucking awful.
Some phones have too large of a border radius, but I generally like it.
Am I crazy and wrong now?
That way you can’t cut yourself on the sharp edges
I… Kind of like it?
So you’d say you’re not … ( •_•)>⌐■-■
… edgy (⌐■_■)
I’m almost afraid to admit, but I dig it.
Like I’m not going to use Edge, but it’s nice. 😛
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Use Firefox
If you’re lucky, it’ll follow along with Chrome and start sharing your browser history to advertisers, too!
Actually, since it’s based off Chromium, I’m pretty sure(don’t quote me on this) that those changes will go downstream into most Chrome-based browsers automatically, unless they take the time to remove it manually.
You’re probably right. IMO Chromium should be dropped wherever possible.
In the ideal world these Chromium-based browsers would rebase into Ungoogled or something of the sort. But ofc that’s never happening, so I’d suggest getting ahead and setting things up on Firefox.
ATM I run Vivaldi and Firefox. Vivaldi is currently my main, but I also use FF quite often and will probably start try to switch away from Chromium in the future.
Brave at least claims to be an actual fork of chromium, they cherry pick upstream apparently. It’s still full of crypto bs, so choose your poison.
I sort of understand rounding outside edges for aesthetics since there’s nothing lost and it might be easier as a target for resizing, but inside corners are just stupid. You’re arbitrarily cutting corners out of content for no good reason.
Also looks a lot better in a multi-window environment, i.e., not your phone.
I’ve noticed that there’s a shift in UI design currently back to the 2000s style of round UI design, which eventually moved out of the way for nice straight crisp corners when we shifted from CRTs to LCDs which could render pixel perfect images at last.
We never limited the viewport on a browser of course, that’s madness. But just look at XP’s bubbly design and interfaces of the time vs Win8/10’s very angular, clean crisp interface.
I do hope we’re not descending back into an age of curves, I’m not a fan. But styles come and go every few decades, and maybe younger people today are ready to experience their “age of curves” for the first time?
I wish cars stopped being curvy and went back to rectangle lights and straight lines
It might just be down to nostalgia, especially when it comes to the early 2000s Windows XP style aesthetic. Just think about all the Vaporwave stuff (although that seems to be mostly late-90s-ish).
I’m more of a Windows Aero fan, myself. Frutiger Aero in general has a very dystopian vibe for me but I’m a sucker for transparency.
I miss integrated transparency
Probably to match windows 11 borders
Remember: less viewport and more whitespace = somehow more ergonomic
I mean you can like or dislike it of course but are you really complaining about a viewport 20 square pixels smaller than normal
Yes, that’s what redditor/lemmy users do. None of these people know anything about UX design or the tens of millions of dollars companies pour into user research.
Any minimally decent website already has margin along the viewport edge, at worst you’re shaving off a few pixels from an image that the user probably hasn’t finished scrolling to anyway. There’s no real loss in content with this change.
apart from that it ruins any website’s unique design by forcefully shoving it’s rounded corners into it, or making anything in the corner look odd
How does it ruin unique designs? Nothing important should be so far in the corner that it gets cut off
i’ve designed a few websites recently which really favour sharp corners, and when one of my sharp objects randomly has a rounded corner, when none of the others do, just because it happens to be in the top left corner, in my opinion that’s a bad thing?
Are you able to show us an example of what you’re talking about? I genuinely cannot picture a situation where this would be remotely as bad as some of y’all are making it out to be, how do you design a website in such a way that very slightly chamfered edges completely ruins the look?
That was my takeaway.
THeSe mOroNs dOnT knOw What ThEYre dOIng! WHo thOUgHT thIs wAs a GooD IDeA?!
Probably the hundreds of focus groups that were behind the decision shrug
Yeah no joke. My company is much smaller than MS but they still do tons of user research and surveys. They’ve also been adopting rounded corners for everything. It is easier on the eyes for sure. I like it. The dev types who dominate lemmy always think they know better than ux, but most of them are comically bad at design.
Gosh I love scrolling through 7 pages just to read two paragraphs!
Guess they’re going for the CRT look? Next up, all pages default to 4:3?
“This website looks best on Microsoft Edge at a resolution of 800x600”
You’re joking, but that’s how I unintentionally use the web with Arc Browser. It has rounded corners and an adjustable sidebar of tabs on the
rightleft*. The resulting viewport istightlyapproximately* 4:3. Iirc, Edge can also have tabs on the side.When you close a tab everything shrinks to a tiny square and then blinks out of existence.
If you hold a magnet too close to edge it goes all weird.
